Just curious, what editor/IDE did you use to write Geany in? (I'm guessing you switched to Geany as soon as it became viable.)
Do you still use that previous editor for anything these days?
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:04:44 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious, what editor/IDE did you use to write Geany in? (I'm guessing you switched to Geany as soon as it became viable.)
Anjuta. I liked it very much but it was a bit slow and it has many Gnome dependencies which are not good on a Gnome-free desktop ;-). So, the first lines were written with Anjuta(the old 1.2.x version) and once Geany became a bit usuable(read: only a few crashes within minutes ;-)) I used it.
Do you still use that previous editor for anything these days?
No, since I published version 0.1, Geany had all features which I really need ;-). On the other hand, the features Geany now has, are really great and I never thought, it would develop in the way it did, yeah.
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
Regards, Enrico
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:52:55 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
IIRC mainly kile and kate
On 3/13/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:04:44 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
NEdit.
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 16:31 -0400, John Gabriele wrote:
On 3/13/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:04:44 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
NEdit.
Waaaaay back in my Windows-using days, it was Dev-C++. In my early Linux-using days - OpenLDev, but that just has too many dependencies, and (imo) it isn't as well designed (or as robust) as Geany.
I thought nothing would come along that would be better than Dev-C++, but imo Geany now wins "hands down". I love the ability to have big buttons - I use that all the time. Just good clean simple design... wonderful!
Enrico Tröger wrote:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
UltraEdit was great, which I used on “that other OS”...
At work it's Jedit for me - lots of good plugins, and a nifty plugin manager. It starts up slow, though.
On Linux it was mainly Kate, which is really good BUT has lots of KDE dependencies. I tried emacs and found out why people call it an OS, not an editor :O) I also tried gvim, which I think is one of those things that are awesome if you grew up with it, but should not even bother otherwise because it will you take you *ages* to get as productive as with standard editors, which is frustrating. (what the ...? i have to figure out how to get to edit mode before i can even type a letter? :)
~luzi
On 3/14/07, Luzius Thoeny lucius.antonius@gmail.com wrote:
[snip] I tried emacs and found out why people call it an OS, not an editor :O)
Well, if you like, you don't have to use all its OS features. You can just use it like an IDE, or even just an editor. :)
BTW, note that the actual editing environment for Emacs is very finely tuned after many years of use, and it's very efficient. Little things that are hard to put your finger on (no pun intended :) ), like how move-by-word skips over punctuation in a handy way (Geany (by virtue of its choice of editor component: Scintilla) stops the cursor on each side of punctuation, so it takes more key strokes to move around). Also, Emacs has got features like "redraw screen centered on cursor" (C-l), cut to end of line (C-k), and "select paragraph" (M-h). Little things like that add up to make for a very smooth editing experience, and stiff competition for Geany.
There's also incremental search, which is a very fast way to get around in an editor. (I realize that Geany has find-in-file, and it works well too, maybe even better, but not faster UI-wise.)
Of course, Geany is still young, and may get a number of those features and refinements over time. I'm a fan of both Geany *and* GNU Emacs. So far, IMO, Geany's killer feature is probably how easy it is to learn (though, I haven't tried its Project or Build features).
---John
hi,
El Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:52:55 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de ha escrit:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
bluefish, for C, latex and html/php
bluefish worked well for html, not so well for latex and even worst with c/php...
i was lucky, so when i started C programming was one of the first versions of geany (maybe 0.3, i can't remember...)
in addition, i was editing latex with geany for a while (this is better than bluefish for latex) until i discovered winefish (latex-only editor based on bluefish ;)
topi
Regards, Enrico
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:04:44 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious, what editor/IDE did you use to write Geany in? (I'm guessing you switched to Geany as soon as it became viable.)
Anjuta. I liked it very much but it was a bit slow and it has many Gnome dependencies which are not good on a Gnome-free desktop ;-). So, the first lines were written with Anjuta(the old 1.2.x version) and once Geany became a bit usuable(read: only a few crashes within minutes ;-)) I used it.
Do you still use that previous editor for anything these days?
No, since I published version 0.1, Geany had all features which I really need ;-). On the other hand, the features Geany now has, are really great and I never thought, it would develop in the way it did, yeah.
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
Regards, Enrico
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Hi also used bluefish, and gedit before trying gvim after my switch from gnome to xfce. Now Geany is really nice and fast, and doesn't lack features, which makes it the best choice for me :)
Thanks again for all this work.
topi a écrit :
hi,
El Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:52:55 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de ha escrit:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
bluefish, for C, latex and html/php
bluefish worked well for html, not so well for latex and even worst with c/php...
i was lucky, so when i started C programming was one of the first versions of geany (maybe 0.3, i can't remember...)
in addition, i was editing latex with geany for a while (this is better than bluefish for latex) until i discovered winefish (latex-only editor based on bluefish ;)
topi
Regards, Enrico
Zitat von topi topi23@gmail.com:
in addition, i was editing latex with geany for a while (this is better than bluefish for latex) until i discovered winefish (latex-only editor based on bluefish ;)
I'm using emacs with auctex and preview for LaTeX. But if there is only a little to edit, I'm using Geany because its much faster then emacs while loading, tahts the reason I still like to improve the LaTeX-support of Geany ;)
Frank
On Аўторак 13 Сакавік 2007 20:52, Enrico Tröger wrote:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
emacs.
I am almost competely switched to geany. I run emacs only for debuger mode now and it rarely happend since we are fan of unit tests and trace here.
What do you use for debuger?
Best regards, Yura Semashko
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you use before you got know of Geany?
On Linux/X11, I have used NEdit for a long time for nearly everything. Mostly I use Geany now, but I still use NEdit sometimes, mostly out of habit, but occasionally for some feature Geany doesn't have (yet)
For times when an X environment isn't available, vim and emacs make my head hurt! My favorite console text editor is "le"
When I'm forced to work in MS-Windows, mostly I have used metapad or crEdit, but the Win32 version of Geany looks promising...
Ref: http://www.nedit.org/ ftp://ftp.yars.free.net/pub/source/le/ http://www.liquidninja.com/metapad/ http://www.praven3.com/credit/
- Jeff
On 3/14/07, Jeff Pohlmeyer yetanothergeek@gmail.com wrote:
On Linux/X11, I have used NEdit for a long time for nearly everything. Mostly I use Geany now, but I still use NEdit sometimes, mostly out of habit, but occasionally for some feature Geany doesn't have (yet)
Just curious: what features?
On 3/14/07, John Gabriele jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/14/07, Jeff Pohlmeyer yetanothergeek@gmail.com wrote:
Mostly I use Geany now, but I still use NEdit sometimes, mostly out of habit, but occasionally for some feature Geany doesn't have (yet)
Just curious: what features?
Macro language/record/playback, "named" instances, jump to an externally selected line number, ctrl+tab to insert tab chars even when "use spaces" is enabled, bookmarks, moving tabs between windows, better regular expression support e.g. multi-line matching and sub-expression replacement...
But on the flip side, Geany also has lots of features that NEdit doesn't have, and because there are new releases of Geany and GTK every few months, and new releases of NEdit and Motif every few years (or not), it's easy to guess which editor will be the most "complete" in the future.
- Jeff
On 03/13/2007 06:52:55 PM, Enrico Tröger wrote:
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
SciTE before Geany, and NEdit before that. Although back then I was mainly writing scripts. I'd find it hard to work on a project without Geany now - symbol lists are so useful. I still use NEdit occasionally just to edit 1 or 2 lines (if Geany isn't open), because of its very fast startup time. Sometimes Vim on a minimal system.
When hacking on Geany I use a second instance to test the code, sometimes with a custom config directory (-c newconfdir/).
Yura Semashko: I just use gdb from a terminal window. Perhaps I'll look at one of the gdb GUI frontends one day, if necessary.
Regards, Nick
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:50:57 +0000, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi,
Yura Semashko: I just use gdb from a terminal window. Perhaps I'll look at one of the gdb GUI frontends one day, if necessary.
I use gdb on the console, too. Some time ago, I had a short look at ddd, a graphical frontend for gdb but it didn't impressed me that much. Maybe, I missed some killer features but for my usual debugger usage the gdb CLI is completely sufficient.
Regards, Enrico
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On 3/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:50:57 +0000, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi,
Yura Semashko: I just use gdb from a terminal window. Perhaps I'll look at one of the gdb GUI frontends one day, if necessary.
I use gdb on the console, too. Some time ago, I had a short look at ddd, a graphical frontend for gdb but it didn't impressed me that much. Maybe, I missed some killer features but for my usual debugger usage the gdb CLI is completely sufficient.
The only thing that really keeps me using DDD is the fact that I can think in terms of places in the code instead of filenames and line numbers when setting the breakpoints. Silly, I know, but I like it
Regards, Enrico
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 04:20:49PM -0300, Alexandre Moreira wrote:
On 3/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:50:57 +0000, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
Hi,
Yura Semashko: I just use gdb from a terminal window. Perhaps I'll look at one of the gdb GUI frontends one day, if necessary.
I use gdb on the console, too. Some time ago, I had a short look at ddd, a graphical frontend for gdb but it didn't impressed me that much. Maybe, I missed some killer features but for my usual debugger usage the gdb CLI is completely sufficient.
The only thing that really keeps me using DDD is the fact that I can think in terms of places in the code instead of filenames and line numbers when setting the breakpoints. Silly, I know, but I like it
I use vim regularly, is just carved too deep in my brain that I even have had hard times submitting forms in the web because after typing a long text entry I ended up with ^[:wq (and yes, I know :x).
I start up ddd for some data structures debugging, it allow me to see my trees as graphical trees, and stuff like that. For everything else cli gdb is more than enough.
Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 14:04:44 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Just curious, what editor/IDE did you use to write Geany in? (I'm guessing you switched to Geany as soon as it became viable.)
Anjuta. I liked it very much but it was a bit slow and it has many Gnome dependencies which are not good on a Gnome-free desktop ;-). So, the first lines were written with Anjuta(the old 1.2.x version) and once Geany became a bit usuable(read: only a few crashes within minutes ;-)) I used it.
Do you still use that previous editor for anything these days?
No, since I published version 0.1, Geany had all features which I really need ;-). On the other hand, the features Geany now has, are really great and I never thought, it would develop in the way it did, yeah.
I'm interested in, what editor/IDE did you (all, not only John) use before you got know of Geany?
Most of the time I used nedit. It depended on motif and I missed the compile/click-on-error feature, but otherwise it was ok.
But everything else was either too bloated, too much depending on tons of other things or too featureless.
Geany just about has everything what I need as a coder, and not much else. So I couldn't be more pleased.
Bye Tim
Regards, Enrico
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