New subject: [Geany] Re: The way we handle the FIFO.

24 Jul 2006

      And again, I really must remind me that Gmail can't handle this list
correctly. The message is just below.
2006/7/24, Alexandre Moreira alexandream@gmail.com:
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2006/7/24, Nexu nexu.jin@gmail.com:
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On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 13:49 -0300, Alexandre Moreira wrote:
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    Right now, whenever the user opens a new empty instance of
    geany, geany checks out to see if the FIFO exists, and if it
    does, it asks the user what to do, if it should skip launching

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    or if it should delete the pipe and open.

    But I think asking the user is rather annoying, and would like
    to give Geany the ability to try to connect to the pipe, send
    a ping message wait for, say, 3 or 5 seconds (enough time for
    a process to reply a pipe ping message) and if it doesnt
    reply, deletes the pipe and runs itsel. If it does reply, we
    skip launching and raise the old instance.

so the question is not about the achievability of the feature in
Win32 anymore, but on the actual merits of the feature.
As an user, i think these 2 choices are choices between 2 evil.
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From my point of view the pro and cons of asking the user.
Pro:
        - User only have to click and Geany starts
Cons:
        - User _must_ click something before Geany starts
        - User might be confused why its necessary to answer such
        question and what it means.
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From my points of view the pro and cons of the delay.
Pro:
        - No more dialog at start-up after a crash
Cons:
        - User might be confused why Geany is not responsive at start-up
    (after a crash)

Now consider the main user target group (at-least that is what i assume,
correct me if i am wrong on this) are mostly programmers or at least
more experienced computer users. I think the cons of the dialog is not
necessary 'confusing' and better than a delay where Geany is 'idle'.
As a suggestion, perhaps you could merge these 2 ideas. Instead of a
dialog which needs input. Change it into a dialog with a message Geany
is trying to connect to the existing FIFO with a "cancel" button which
deletes the current FIFO and starts up, or wait where after X seconds
(display count down perhaps to inform the user how long left) of time
out and not able to reconnect to existing FIFO and delete it and make a
new one.
The Idea looks nice, but I don't think we can implement it without making
a major change in our initialization code. I am not very familiar with
neither GTK+ or Windows programming (I usually only develop console
applications) but I think we'll need a thread to handle the waiting on the
pipe and another to handle the window presentation, synchronize them both
and stuff. Not really a hard thing to do, but would make a bigger codebase
for initialization, something I don't think everyone will agree on.
Perhaps we should just leave it the way it is now.
Regards,
Alexandre Moreira.
Regards,
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Nex

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Alexandre Moreira.
PS: Nexu, sorry for the duplicate message.

Re: [Geany] Re: The way we handle the FIFO.