This is pretty anecdotal I can't say anything for sure, but I'm just coming off a long stint of coding in which Geany was open on my machine all the time and I'd get system hangs maybe once or twice per day -- once in six or eight hours. Usually the computer would freeze except that the mouse would continue to move, but not have any effect. Sometimes the video would go crazy and create a sort of pixilization of the screen that looked like those squares you can point your smartphone at and order a pizza. I really had/have no idea who or what was to blame, however I've finished coding for the time being and after a week with no use of Geany, I've had not a single hang. Also, after hangs I'd often see a file like: '.goutputstream-4BLCY1' which I know is created by Geany and not erased in case of some screwup, so it sorta points the finger at Geany. Dunno, is there some way of nailing this down? Some sort of diagnostic or error log or some such that might help? I've reinstalled with no improvement, but that's the Debian repo version. Maybe an update? Pretty thin evidence I know but it begins to look like Geany is misbehaving. I almost wish it happened more than once or twice per day because that would make diagnosis easier. Thots?
On 1/12/23 16:21, Ray Andrews via Users wrote:
This is pretty anecdotal I can't say anything for sure, but I'm just coming off a long stint of coding in which Geany was open on my machine all the time and I'd get system hangs maybe once or twice per day -- once in six or eight hours. Usually the computer would freeze except that the mouse would continue to move, but not have any effect. Sometimes the video would go crazy and create a sort of pixilization of the screen that looked like those squares you can point your smartphone at and order a pizza. I really had/have no idea who or what was to blame, however I've finished coding for the time being and after a week with no use of Geany, I've had not a single hang. Also, after hangs I'd often see a file like: '.goutputstream-4BLCY1' which I know is created by Geany and not erased in case of some screwup, so it sorta points the finger at Geany. Dunno, is there some way of nailing this down? Some sort of diagnostic or error log or some such that might help? I've reinstalled with no improvement, but that's the Debian repo version. Maybe an update? Pretty thin evidence I know but it begins to look like Geany is misbehaving. I almost wish it happened more than once or twice per day because that would make diagnosis easier. Thots?
You need to look at (several) Linux logs & find timestamps around when your system froze. Do a web search for "linux (distro name) troubleshoot system problems logs." Something similar should find which logs to view. Some, you might have to specify in a CLI to add timestamps to output of the log.
In some distros like (more recent versions) Mint, there's an installed app w/ GUI, called "logs." Go figure. It shows some but not all entries from several logs w/ some filtering options. If evidence isn't shown in something similar to "logs" app, need to look at full logs.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 08:21, Ray Andrews via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
This is pretty anecdotal I can't say anything for sure, but I'm just coming off a long stint of coding in which Geany was open on my machine all the time and I'd get system hangs maybe once or twice per day -- once in six or eight hours. Usually the computer would freeze except that the mouse would continue to move, but not have any effect. Sometimes the video would go crazy and create a sort of pixilization of the screen that looked like those squares you can point your smartphone at and order a pizza.
Or send your savings to hackerz-r-us :-P
I really had/have no idea who or what was to blame, however I've finished coding for the time being and after a week with no use of Geany, I've had not a single hang.
Without any idea what you are doing/not doing its not possible to say. Maybe your long use of Geany is stressing a flakey part of your system that no other app gets to.
Also, after hangs I'd often see a file like: '.goutputstream-4BLCY1' which I know is created by Geany and not erased in case of some screwup, so it sorta points the finger at Geany.
Well if your systems hung presumably you have to crash/reset it to get it back? So clearly such files won't get cleaned up, its a GTK/Glib temporary that maybe isn't getting removed. Search the Geany issues for goutputstream for some suggestions.
Dunno, is there some way of nailing this down? Some sort of diagnostic or error log or some such that might help? I've reinstalled with no improvement, but that's the Debian repo version. Maybe an update? Pretty thin evidence I know but it begins to look like Geany is misbehaving. I almost wish it happened more than once or twice per day because that would make diagnosis easier. Thots?
Please provide your operating system and version, Geany version, the versions of GTK and glib its _using_ (see help->debug messages and post any other warnings and errors while you are there).
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On 2023-01-12 16:09, Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Well if your systems hung presumably you have to crash/reset it to get it back? So clearly such files won't get cleaned up, its a GTK/Glib temporary that maybe isn't getting removed. Search the Geany issues for goutputstream for some suggestions.
I find nothing of much use on the internet as to that. Why the files aren't cleaned up
is obvious, why the hang happens to interrupt the write is the issue.
Please provide your operating system and version, Geany version, the versions of GTK and glib its _using_ (see help->debug messages and post any other warnings and errors while you are there).
Ok, next time it happens I'll post that info. Those debug messages look helpful.
That's a start.
As a note of comparison, I can leave Geany up for days with files loaded and have experienced no issues with hangs or anything else. Geany 1.37.1 on Xubuntu 20.04. If your video becomes corrupted maybe you've got a system power supply that is getting tired and dropping some voltage, or perhaps some failing memory. Based on my experiences over many years, I don't think Geany is the root cause of this problem. Just my $0.02.
On 1/12/23 7:19 PM, Ray Andrews via Users wrote:
On 2023-01-12 16:09, Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Well if your systems hung presumably you have to crash/reset it to get it back? So clearly such files won't get cleaned up, its a GTK/Glib temporary that maybe isn't getting removed. Search the Geany issues for goutputstream for some suggestions.
I find nothing of much use on the internet as to that. Why the files aren't cleaned up
is obvious, why the hang happens to interrupt the write is the issue.
Please provide your operating system and version, Geany version, the versions of GTK and glib its _using_ (see help->debug messages and post any other warnings and errors while you are there).
Ok, next time it happens I'll post that info. Those debug messages look helpful.
That's a start.
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On 2023-01-12 19:26, Woodrow Stool via Users wrote:
As a note of comparison, I can leave Geany up for days with files loaded and have experienced no issues with hangs or anything else. Geany 1.37.1 on Xubuntu 20.04. If your video becomes corrupted maybe you've got a system power supply that is getting tired and dropping some voltage, or perhaps some failing memory. Based on my experiences over many years, I don't think Geany is the root cause of this problem. Just my $0.02.
Sure, I'm far from being certain about this. It could be coincidental that I'm back to being stable after finishing my coding project. I never had any issues with Geany in the past. What I'm wanting is some ideas how to debug it next time it happens and Lex had some suggestions that look good.
On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 at 01:19, Ray Andrews via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
On 2023-01-12 19:26, Woodrow Stool via Users wrote:
As a note of comparison, I can leave Geany up for days with files loaded and have experienced no issues with hangs or anything else. Geany 1.37.1 on Xubuntu 20.04. If your video becomes corrupted maybe you've got a system power supply that is getting tired and dropping some voltage, or perhaps some failing memory. Based on my experiences over many years, I don't think Geany is the root cause of this problem. Just my $0.02.
Sure, I'm far from being certain about this. It could be coincidental that I'm back to being stable after finishing my coding project. I never had any issues with Geany in the past. What I'm wanting is some ideas how to debug it next time it happens and Lex had some suggestions that look good.
Just another 2c, maybe it was bugs in the program you were developing, presumably you tested it from time to time.
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