Hello Geany Community, Today I upgraded to geany 1.34.1_1. I am using Void Linux. For the past several months, maybe going back to late 2018, I have not been able to resize the divider between the sidebar panel and the main editor panel. Nor can I raise the divider that I think is still at the bottom of the Geany window to expose the command-line console. I used to be able to do those things. I don't get the pointer icon change when I move the mouse over where a divider would be.
I figured the problem was the growing pains of switching to a different library, but not now. I see nothing online about anyone else having this issue. I see the configuration file ~/.config/geany/geany.conf, but I see nothing to change. Here are two lines for what it's worth:
tab_pos_sidebar=2sidebar_pos=0
I also noticed today that there are unlabelled buttons on either side of the file tabs to change the active tab to the left or right, which is nice. It would be nice to be able to move the panel dividers again, but obviously it's working pretty well without. Geany is a very good editor. It was great for my Python programming, which ended before this issue began. Maybe the Void Linux package is screwy, a technical term I know. I am not knowledgeable about compiling software, which could explain why I don't use FreeBSD. I am ignorant about compilation configuration settings, which I suppose has to do with architectural ignorance and whatnot. Right now I'd just like any relevant information I can get to better understand what the problem might (and might not) be and better understand what I might try to correct it. I want to know if anyone else on Linux is having this problem with the dividers, or is not, and with the display of the presumed arrow icons on the tab left and tab right buttons, or not.
Thanks.
Douglas Morris
Hi,
It depends on the GTK theme you are using which sets handle size and appearance. On my Mint dark pane handles are effectively invisible and the only way to know if the cursor is in a position to move the handle is when the cursor changes to a double headed left/right arrow. This change happens near but not exactly where I would expect it to, just to the right of the sidebar scroll bar, but that impression may be due to an offset in that cursor icon. Same for the vertical pane handle. Try fishing about in the area I described.
Cheers Lex
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 06:43, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hello Geany Community,
Today I upgraded to geany 1.34.1_1. I am using Void Linux. For the past several months, maybe going back to late 2018, I have not been able to resize the divider between the sidebar panel and the main editor panel. Nor can I raise the divider that I think is still at the bottom of the Geany window to expose the command-line console. I used to be able to do those things. I don't get the pointer icon change when I move the mouse over where a divider would be.
I figured the problem was the growing pains of switching to a different library, but not now. I see nothing online about anyone else having this issue. I see the configuration file ~/.config/geany/geany.conf, but I see nothing to change. Here are two lines for what it's worth:
tab_pos_sidebar=2 sidebar_pos=0
I also noticed today that there are unlabelled buttons on either side of the file tabs to change the active tab to the left or right, which is nice. It would be nice to be able to move the panel dividers again, but obviously it's working pretty well without. Geany is a very good editor. It was great for my Python programming, which ended before this issue began. Maybe the Void Linux package is screwy, a technical term I know. I am not knowledgeable about compiling software, which could explain why I don't use FreeBSD. I am ignorant about compilation configuration settings, which I suppose has to do with architectural ignorance and whatnot.
Right now I'd just like any relevant information I can get to better understand what the problem might (and might not) be and better understand what I might try to correct it. I want to know if anyone else on Linux is having this problem with the dividers, or is not, and with the display of the presumed arrow icons on the tab left and tab right buttons, or not.
Thanks.
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Lex, thanks! It works! I have a vertical line between the sidebar and file tabs that shows some of the exact grab area for that divider. It's like finding a long-lost friend. I don't get the double-arrow pointer at all. GTK is something I can explore later. Many icons are missing for my Xfce desktop's main applications menu. I really liked the Geany icons from the LXDE desktop on a different flavor of Linux I had.
Douglas Morris
On Sunday, April 28, 2019, 3:27:35 PM PDT, Lex Trotman elextr@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
It depends on the GTK theme you are using which sets handle size and appearance. On my Mint dark pane handles are effectively invisible and the only way to know if the cursor is in a position to move the handle is when the cursor changes to a double headed left/right arrow. This change happens near but not exactly where I would expect it to, just to the right of the sidebar scroll bar, but that impression may be due to an offset in that cursor icon. Same for the vertical pane handle. Try fishing about in the area I described.
Cheers Lex
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 06:43, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hello Geany Community,
Today I upgraded to geany 1.34.1_1. I am using Void Linux. For the past several months, maybe going back to late 2018, I have not been able to resize the divider between the sidebar panel and the main editor panel. Nor can I raise the divider that I think is still at the bottom of the Geany window to expose the command-line console. I used to be able to do those things. I don't get the pointer icon change when I move the mouse over where a divider would be.
I figured the problem was the growing pains of switching to a different library, but not now. I see nothing online about anyone else having this issue. I see the configuration file ~/.config/geany/geany.conf, but I see nothing to change. Here are two lines for what it's worth:
tab_pos_sidebar=2 sidebar_pos=0
I also noticed today that there are unlabelled buttons on either side of the file tabs to change the active tab to the left or right, which is nice. It would be nice to be able to move the panel dividers again, but obviously it's working pretty well without. Geany is a very good editor. It was great for my Python programming, which ended before this issue began. Maybe the Void Linux package is screwy, a technical term I know. I am not knowledgeable about compiling software, which could explain why I don't use FreeBSD. I am ignorant about compilation configuration settings, which I suppose has to do with architectural ignorance and whatnot.
Right now I'd just like any relevant information I can get to better understand what the problem might (and might not) be and better understand what I might try to correct it. I want to know if anyone else on Linux is having this problem with the dividers, or is not, and with the display of the presumed arrow icons on the tab left and tab right buttons, or not.
Thanks.
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On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 09:02, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Lex, thanks! It works! I have a vertical line between the sidebar and file tabs that shows some of the exact grab area for that divider. It's like finding a long-lost friend. I don't get the double-arrow pointer at all.
Again that is set by the theme.
GTK is something I can explore later. Many icons are missing for my Xfce desktop's main applications menu. I really liked the Geany icons from the LXDE desktop on a different flavor of Linux I had.
Well, Geany has some icons for items that are not common in themes and I thought it had a desktop icon, but themes can override them.
And unfortunately not all desktops and distros have contributors who put the effort into their themes, and for GTK you have GTK2 and GTK3 with incompatible theme definitions so both have to be handled separately.
[start rant] In general in my opinion themes are a BAD IDEA, letting someone who knows nothing about your app take over its look and feel is always going to be hit and miss. "So they look and feel the same" say the themesters. But apps are not all the same, desktop apps like Geany don't work the same as phone like apps so why should the same themes be applied to them all!!!??? [end rant, thank you for the opportunity to voice my prejudices :) ]
Cheers Lex
Douglas Morris
On Sunday, April 28, 2019, 3:27:35 PM PDT, Lex Trotman elextr@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
It depends on the GTK theme you are using which sets handle size and appearance. On my Mint dark pane handles are effectively invisible and the only way to know if the cursor is in a position to move the handle is when the cursor changes to a double headed left/right arrow. This change happens near but not exactly where I would expect it to, just to the right of the sidebar scroll bar, but that impression may be due to an offset in that cursor icon. Same for the vertical pane handle. Try fishing about in the area I described.
Cheers Lex
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 06:43, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hello Geany Community,
Today I upgraded to geany 1.34.1_1. I am using Void Linux. For the past several months, maybe going back to late 2018, I have not been able to resize the divider between the sidebar panel and the main editor panel. Nor can I raise the divider that I think is still at the bottom of the Geany window to expose the command-line console. I used to be able to do those things. I don't get the pointer icon change when I move the mouse over where a divider would be.
I figured the problem was the growing pains of switching to a different library, but not now. I see nothing online about anyone else having this issue. I see the configuration file ~/.config/geany/geany.conf, but I see nothing to change. Here are two lines for what it's worth:
tab_pos_sidebar=2 sidebar_pos=0
I also noticed today that there are unlabelled buttons on either side of the file tabs to change the active tab to the left or right, which is nice. It would be nice to be able to move the panel dividers again, but obviously it's working pretty well without. Geany is a very good editor. It was great for my Python programming, which ended before this issue began. Maybe the Void Linux package is screwy, a technical term I know. I am not knowledgeable about compiling software, which could explain why I don't use FreeBSD. I am ignorant about compilation configuration settings, which I suppose has to do with architectural ignorance and whatnot.
Right now I'd just like any relevant information I can get to better understand what the problem might (and might not) be and better understand what I might try to correct it. I want to know if anyone else on Linux is having this problem with the dividers, or is not, and with the display of the presumed arrow icons on the tab left and tab right buttons, or not.
Thanks.
Douglas Morris
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Lex, your rant is insightful for me because I can intuit the problem from it. Thanks.
Douglas Morris
On Sunday, April 28, 2019, 4:32:53 PM PDT, Lex Trotman elextr@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 09:02, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Lex, thanks! It works! I have a vertical line between the sidebar and file tabs that shows some of the exact grab area for that divider. It's like finding a long-lost friend. I don't get the double-arrow pointer at all.
Again that is set by the theme.
GTK is something I can explore later. Many icons are missing for my Xfce desktop's main applications menu. I really liked the Geany icons from the LXDE desktop on a different flavor of Linux I had.
Well, Geany has some icons for items that are not common in themes and I thought it had a desktop icon, but themes can override them.
And unfortunately not all desktops and distros have contributors who put the effort into their themes, and for GTK you have GTK2 and GTK3 with incompatible theme definitions so both have to be handled separately.
[start rant] In general in my opinion themes are a BAD IDEA, letting someone who knows nothing about your app take over its look and feel is always going to be hit and miss. "So they look and feel the same" say the themesters. But apps are not all the same, desktop apps like Geany don't work the same as phone like apps so why should the same themes be applied to them all!!!??? [end rant, thank you for the opportunity to voice my prejudices :) ]
Cheers Lex
Douglas Morris
On Sunday, April 28, 2019, 3:27:35 PM PDT, Lex Trotman elextr@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
It depends on the GTK theme you are using which sets handle size and appearance. On my Mint dark pane handles are effectively invisible and the only way to know if the cursor is in a position to move the handle is when the cursor changes to a double headed left/right arrow. This change happens near but not exactly where I would expect it to, just to the right of the sidebar scroll bar, but that impression may be due to an offset in that cursor icon. Same for the vertical pane handle. Try fishing about in the area I described.
Cheers Lex
On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 06:43, Douglas Morris via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hello Geany Community,
Today I upgraded to geany 1.34.1_1. I am using Void Linux. For the past several months, maybe going back to late 2018, I have not been able to resize the divider between the sidebar panel and the main editor panel. Nor can I raise the divider that I think is still at the bottom of the Geany window to expose the command-line console. I used to be able to do those things. I don't get the pointer icon change when I move the mouse over where a divider would be.
I figured the problem was the growing pains of switching to a different library, but not now. I see nothing online about anyone else having this issue. I see the configuration file ~/.config/geany/geany.conf, but I see nothing to change. Here are two lines for what it's worth:
tab_pos_sidebar=2 sidebar_pos=0
I also noticed today that there are unlabelled buttons on either side of the file tabs to change the active tab to the left or right, which is nice. It would be nice to be able to move the panel dividers again, but obviously it's working pretty well without. Geany is a very good editor. It was great for my Python programming, which ended before this issue began. Maybe the Void Linux package is screwy, a technical term I know. I am not knowledgeable about compiling software, which could explain why I don't use FreeBSD. I am ignorant about compilation configuration settings, which I suppose has to do with architectural ignorance and whatnot.
Right now I'd just like any relevant information I can get to better understand what the problem might (and might not) be and better understand what I might try to correct it. I want to know if anyone else on Linux is having this problem with the dividers, or is not, and with the display of the presumed arrow icons on the tab left and tab right buttons, or not.
Thanks.
Douglas Morris
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