Hi
Site http://geany.uvena.de looks really bad in konqueror browser. Black characters on gray background are almost unreadable.
Firefox looks ok.
Best regards, Yura Semashko
Am Mittwoch 12 September 2007 11:12 schrieb Yura Siamashka:
Hi
Site http://geany.uvena.de looks really bad in konqueror browser. Black characters on gray background are almost unreadable.
Firefox looks ok.
Best regards, Yura Semashko _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
Hi,
Well, I can't reproduce this behavior with Konquerer from KDE 3.5.4. It looks the same as visiting the webpage with Firefox.
Regards, Christoph
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:49:00AM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
Am Mittwoch 12 September 2007 11:12 schrieb Yura Siamashka:
Hi
Site http://geany.uvena.de looks really bad in konqueror browser. Black characters on gray background are almost unreadable.
Hi,
Well, I can't reproduce this behavior with Konquerer from KDE 3.5.4. It looks the same as visiting the webpage with Firefox.
My KDE version is 3.5.5. Here is screenshot: http://users.cosmostv.by/yurand/geanyweb.jpg
Best regards, Yura Semashko
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:48:31 +0300, Yura Siamashka yurand2@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:49:00AM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
Am Mittwoch 12 September 2007 11:12 schrieb Yura Siamashka:
Hi
Site http://geany.uvena.de looks really bad in konqueror browser. Black characters on gray background are almost unreadable.
Hi,
Well, I can't reproduce this behavior with Konquerer from KDE 3.5.4. It looks the same as visiting the webpage with Firefox.
My KDE version is 3.5.5. Here is screenshot: http://users.cosmostv.by/yurand/geanyweb.jpg
Well, there seems to be something wrong which prevents your Konqueror from setting the background colour of the inner table. I'll take a look next week(sorry, I don't have time over the next days).
Regards, Enrico
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The main errors are the missing /> for closing the link tags in the head section.
Enrico Tröger a écrit :
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:48:31 +0300, Yura Siamashka yurand2@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:49:00AM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
Am Mittwoch 12 September 2007 11:12 schrieb Yura Siamashka:
Hi
Site http://geany.uvena.de looks really bad in konqueror browser. Black characters on gray background are almost unreadable.
Hi,
Well, I can't reproduce this behavior with Konquerer from KDE 3.5.4. It looks the same as visiting the webpage with Firefox.
My KDE version is 3.5.5. Here is screenshot: http://users.cosmostv.by/yurand/geanyweb.jpg
Well, there seems to be something wrong which prevents your Konqueror from setting the background colour of the inner table. I'll take a look next week(sorry, I don't have time over the next days).
Regards, Enrico
Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The website in general responds very slowly for me in Firefox. I've mentioned it here before, and it could be a javascript thing.
Anyway, I notice it's a pmwiki-based site. It's possible that it could stand an upgrade to its pmwiki engine? Looks like it's running on 2.1.11, but the current release of pmwiki is at 2.1.27 (with a 2.2.0-beta63 available as well).
Otherwise, the site isn't all that complex, and may not really even require a wiki, per se. Seems like a handful of static pages would work just fine...
---John
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The website in general responds very slowly for me in Firefox. I've mentioned it here before, and it could be a javascript thing.
Anyway, I notice it's a pmwiki-based site. It's possible that it could stand an upgrade to its pmwiki engine? Looks like it's running on 2.1.11, but the current release of pmwiki is at 2.1.27 (with a 2.2.0-beta63 available as well).
Otherwise, the site isn't all that complex, and may not really even require a wiki, per se. Seems like a handful of static pages would work just fine...
Hehe, we changed the site last year from static pages to a wiki. I don't want to change back but I'll update the wiki software soon. Let's hope things getting better.
Regards, Enrico
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The website in general responds very slowly for me in Firefox. I've mentioned it here before, and it could be a javascript thing.
Well, when looking at the source of the delivered HTML code, there isn't much Javascript in it. I must admit, the server is sometimes generally a bit slow(but therefore it is cheap ;-)). I don't have any problems with Firefox.
Anyway, I notice it's a pmwiki-based site. It's possible that it could stand an upgrade to its pmwiki engine? Looks like it's running on 2.1.11, but the current release of pmwiki is at 2.1.27 (with a 2.2.0-beta63 available as well).
I updated the wiki engine to 2.1.27, maybe it helps a bit. I don't want to use the 2.2.0-beta thing because it's a beta and I read on the download site they will maybe change some things, so I want to wait until it is stable.
Any changes regarding the Konqueror problem (I can't test it)?
Regards, Enrico
On 9/24/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The website in general responds very slowly for me in Firefox. I've mentioned it here before, and it could be a javascript thing.
Well, when looking at the source of the delivered HTML code, there isn't much Javascript in it. I must admit, the server is sometimes generally a bit slow(but therefore it is cheap ;-)). I don't have any problems with Firefox.
Sorry. What I meant was, Firefox (and Xorg, actually) bogs down when loading the pages. I can see the cpu usage spike when I change pages on the site, or when I change browser tabs to the one with the Geany page on it.
Anyway, I notice it's a pmwiki-based site. It's possible that it could stand an upgrade to its pmwiki engine? Looks like it's running on 2.1.11, but the current release of pmwiki is at 2.1.27 (with a 2.2.0-beta63 available as well).
I updated the wiki engine to 2.1.27, maybe it helps a bit.
Behaves about the same for me, afaict. This is on Ubuntu 7.04 using Firefox 2.0.0.6.
The site's usable though. It just takes extra time to navigate around between pages.
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:26 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/24/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The website in general responds very slowly for me in Firefox. I've mentioned it here before, and it could be a javascript thing.
Well, when looking at the source of the delivered HTML code, there isn't much Javascript in it. I must admit, the server is sometimes generally a bit slow(but therefore it is cheap ;-)). I don't have any problems with Firefox.
Sorry. What I meant was, Firefox (and Xorg, actually) bogs down when loading the pages. I can see the cpu usage spike when I change pages on the site, or when I change browser tabs to the one with the Geany page on it.
Ah ok, I got it now. Probably this is caused by the theme of the site and the heavy use of CSS. I'm ot sure and I didn't investigated it further but this is my first guess. If I have time, I'll look for another nice and faster theme.
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Regards, Enrico
On 25/09/07 14:56:16, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:26 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry. What I meant was, Firefox (and Xorg, actually) bogs down
when
loading the pages. I can see the cpu usage spike when I change
pages
on the site, or when I change browser tabs to the one with the
Geany
page on it.
Ah ok, I got it now. Probably this is caused by the theme of the site and the heavy use of CSS. I'm ot sure and I didn't investigated it further but this is my first guess. If I have time, I'll look for another nice and faster theme.
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Personally I use Galeon, which uses the mozilla rendering engine, provided (on FC5) by: seamonkey-1.0.8-0.5.1.fc5
I don't get any noticeable performance problems (even on a slow machine), but there is a rendering bug with the 'A bit modern' theme. I hadn't mentioned it before, but I get a glitch on the sidebar menu after about the height of the first page. The gradient margin stops there and the background colours are then skewed to the left by about 20px.
I just tried the slim theme link and it seems to render perfectly. Also I think now it may be better to have a lighter theme than 'A bit modern'.
Regards, Nick
On 9/25/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Yes. That fixes it.
---John
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:26 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/24/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
( snip )
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Regards, Enrico
Hi - thought I'd give feedback too! ( I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.6 ) The new site is waaaaay faster! *Much* faster to navigate around - in the old site, my mouse-pointer sticks repeatedly every time I go there. I really like the clean, uncluttered look of the new site too. Just my 2c worth..... :-) - Andy
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:43:02 +1200, Andy Elvey andy.elvey@paradise.net.nz wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:26 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/24/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
( snip )
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Regards, Enrico
Hi - thought I'd give feedback too! ( I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.6 ) The new site is waaaaay faster! *Much* faster to navigate around - in the old site, my mouse-pointer sticks repeatedly every time I go there. I really like the clean, uncluttered look of the new site too.
Nice to hear. I never knew that people have so massive problems with the "a bit modern" skin. But I have to admit, I really don't like the plain pmwiki skin(the one at geany2.uvena.de).
So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
More can be found on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins.
Regards, Enrico
hi,
El Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:15:04 +0200 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de ha escrit:
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So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
i think WikiLoveSkin has a clear layout, one vote :)
regards,
topi
More can be found on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins.
Regards, Enrico
On 26/09/07 17:15:04, Enrico Tröger wrote:
Nice to hear. I never knew that people have so massive problems with the "a bit modern" skin. But I have to admit, I really don't like the plain pmwiki skin(the one at geany2.uvena.de).
So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
More can be found on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins.
So far, I like the Lean skin, it looks better than the current geany2.uvena.de site, and perhaps will render better than 'A bit modern' as it's lighter, and says it's standard compliant and was designed 'with usability in mind'. Also I prefer the sidebar on the left, so Lean beats Light skin for me.
Regards, Nick
On 9/26/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
[snip]
So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
More can be found on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins.
Looks like both Lean Skin and Light Skin have had a lot of work put into them (by the same author), but Light Skin has some nice touches to make the page look a little less harsh. I also like how Light skin makes the background of code snippets darker than the surrounding text.
Like Nick, I also prefer the sidebar on the left, and it seems to be a trivial change to make Light Skin do that (change a 1 to a 0, line 32).
WikiLove is pretty too, but doesn't seem as polished as the others. It doesn't come with any documentation like the others, and its author has not responded to the problems listed in the comments section of its page.
---John
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 13:06 -0400, John Gabriele wrote:
On 9/26/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
[snip]
So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
More can be found on http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins.
Looks like both Lean Skin and Light Skin have had a lot of work put into them (by the same author), but Light Skin has some nice touches to make the page look a little less harsh. I also like how Light skin makes the background of code snippets darker than the surrounding text.
Like Nick, I also prefer the sidebar on the left, and it seems to be a trivial change to make Light Skin do that (change a 1 to a 0, line 32).
WikiLove is pretty too, but doesn't seem as polished as the others. It doesn't come with any documentation like the others, and its author has not responded to the problems listed in the comments section of its page.
---John
Pretty much agreed here. Both LeanSkin and LightSkin are good (I tend to like Lean more as it has the links on the left). Don't like WikiLoveSkin at all - too "busy", too cluttered. So, +1 from here for both LeanSkin and LightSkin. -1 for WikiLoveSkin.... :-) - Andy
On 9/26/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
My suggestions: .../BlueBerrySkin .../LeanSkin .../LightSkin .../WikiLoveSkin
From those four, my choice is LightSkin - but I would
like to see a touch of color somewhere.
- Jeff
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:15:04 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:43:02 +1200, Andy Elvey andy.elvey@paradise.net.nz wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 15:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:46:26 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/24/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:04:35 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
( snip )
For quick testing, please see http://geany2.uvena.de/, it's a copy of the current site with the slim original pmwiki theme. Any differences?
Regards, Enrico
Hi - thought I'd give feedback too! ( I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.6 ) The new site is waaaaay faster! *Much* faster to navigate around - in the old site, my mouse-pointer sticks repeatedly every time I go there. I really like the clean, uncluttered look of the new site too.
Nice to hear. I never knew that people have so massive problems with the "a bit modern" skin. But I have to admit, I really don't like the plain pmwiki skin(the one at geany2.uvena.de).
So, let's choose another one, which is usuable for you all and fits my wishes ;-).
My suggestions: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/BlueBerrySkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LeanSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/LightSkin http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/WikiLoveSkin
Ok, it looks like most of you prefer the LightSkin. See http://geany2.uvena.de for a first test. I just installed the skin and changed the sidebar from right to left(as John suggested). I agree the colours need some love.
Regards, Enrico
( snip )
Ok, it looks like most of you prefer the LightSkin. See http://geany2.uvena.de for a first test. I just installed the skin and changed the sidebar from right to left(as John suggested). I agree the colours need some love.
Regards, Enrico
Looks good! Loads nice and fast, and has an elegant look to it (just like Geany itself... ;-) ). Oh, and having the sidebar on the left is *much* better! - Andy
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:41 +1200, Andy Elvey andy.elvey@paradise.net.nz wrote:
( snip )
Ok, it looks like most of you prefer the LightSkin. See http://geany2.uvena.de for a first test. I just installed the skin and changed the sidebar from right to left(as John suggested). I agree the colours need some love.
Regards, Enrico
Looks good! Loads nice and fast, and has an elegant look to it (just like Geany itself... ;-) ). Oh, and having the sidebar on the left is *much* better!
Finally, I just changed the skin on the website.
Regards, Enrico
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:07:50 +0200, Jean-Philippe skateinmars@skateinmars.net wrote:
The website doesn't validate, it could be a reason for the bad rendering from konqueror.
The main errors are the missing /> for closing the link tags in the head section.
Thanks for the hint. I fixed the errors and it validates now. But I'm not sure whether this solved the Konqueror problem.
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 04:04:57PM +0200, Enrico Tröger wrote:
Thanks for the hint. I fixed the errors and it validates now. But I'm not sure whether this solved the Konqueror problem.
It doesn't help, same look. Maybe I just have bad konqueror version. I will update it to latest gentoo stable this night and report result.
Best regards, Yura Semashko
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:57:02PM +0300, Yura Siamashka wrote:
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 04:04:57PM +0200, Enrico Tröger wrote:
Thanks for the hint. I fixed the errors and it validates now. But I'm not sure whether this solved the Konqueror problem.
It doesn't help, same look. Maybe I just have bad konqueror version. I will update it to latest gentoo stable this night and report result.
No luck, same look. But the site looks well in the same konqueror version at work. So it is probably something with my system or settings. Thanks for help.
Best regards, Yura Semashko