Greetings
I'm working on a project.
Want to outline it something like this:
page 1 - title page some questions page 2 - list of steps (presently have some at least 13 steps) subsequent pages are one page (or set) per step
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
TIA
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 13:13, o1bigtenor via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Greetings
I'm working on a project.
Want to outline it something like this:
page 1 - title page some questions page 2 - list of steps (presently have some at least 13 steps) subsequent pages are one page (or set) per step
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
No ;-P
Talking about "pages" etc suggests you are either using a text markup language or are expecting Geany to act like a word processor. If the former then the questions are probably best directed to the forums associated with that markup language which you have not mentioned, if its the second, Geany is not a word processor, use Libre Office or MS Word or similar.
Cheers Lex
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On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:53 PM Lex Trotman via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 13:13, o1bigtenor via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Greetings
I'm working on a project.
Want to outline it something like this:
page 1 - title page some questions page 2 - list of steps (presently have some at least 13 steps) subsequent pages are one page (or set) per step
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
No ;-P
Talking about "pages" etc suggests you are either using a text markup language or are expecting Geany to act like a word processor. If the former then the questions are probably best directed to the forums associated with that markup language which you have not mentioned, if its the second, Geany is not a word processor, use Libre Office or MS Word or similar.
Would have preferred the lower overhead in the use of .txt files. OK - - - sorta think its multi-dimensional writing that I'm looking for.
Thanks for responding!
Hey there,
Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Talking about "pages" etc suggests you are either using a text markup language or are expecting Geany to act like a word processor. If the former then the questions are probably best directed to the forums associated with that markup language which you have not mentioned, if its the second, Geany is not a word processor, use Libre Office or MS Word or similar.
I thought I'd add that a personal wiki might also be worth considering for such a job.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 9:54 AM Little Girl via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hey there,
Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Talking about "pages" etc suggests you are either using a text markup language or are expecting Geany to act like a word processor. If the former then the questions are probably best directed to the forums associated with that markup language which you have not mentioned, if its the second, Geany is not a word processor, use Libre Office or MS Word or similar.
I thought I'd add that a personal wiki might also be worth considering for such a job.
Have done a little bit of looking.
Wikis - - - personal - - - in the linux world - - - they're moribund - - - current as of 2013. That's a little scary to run today - - imo. Wikis - - - wow - - - resource hogs one needs to run a complete server install. May be a good idea but thats like me building tools to build tools to build a tool to do a job for something I'm working on for a project. already have too many projects sliding from something doable in a month to them taking years - - - - and I'm not 20 no more - - - grin!
Might be a good idea though!!
Thanks
Hey there,
o1bigtenor via Users wrote:
Little Girl wrote:
I thought I'd add that a personal wiki might also be worth considering for such a job.
Have done a little bit of looking.
Wikis - - - personal - - - in the linux world - - - they're moribund
- current as of 2013.
That's a little scary to run today - - imo. Wikis - - - wow - - - resource hogs one needs to run a complete server install.
Yeah, many of them are like that.
May be a good idea but thats like me building tools to build tools to build a tool to do a job for something I'm working on for a project. already have too many projects sliding from something doable in a month to them taking years - - - - and I'm not 20 no more - - - grin!
Might be a good idea though!!
Try Zim wiki. It's a desktop wiki program that installs on your computer like any other program without you having to run a server. It's included in the package manager of several distributions of GNU/Linux, is also available for Mac and Windows, and offers a PPA or can be downloaded directly.
It creates a personal desktop environment much like you described in your original post and is capable of readjusting lists when you insert into them the same way LibreOffice Writer does and can also link to and provide an interface for working with other pages.
Between Geany, LibreOffice Writer, and Zim, all my coding and writing needs of various kinds are completely met. I'm very content with this little trio of power tools.
Feel free to email me directly off of the list if you'd like to explore Zim and need any help with it. I use it daily for certain tasks.
On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 1:13 PM Little Girl via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Hey there,
o1bigtenor via Users wrote:
Little Girl wrote:
I thought I'd add that a personal wiki might also be worth considering for such a job.
Have done a little bit of looking.
Wikis - - - personal - - - in the linux world - - - they're moribund
- current as of 2013.
That's a little scary to run today - - imo. Wikis - - - wow - - - resource hogs one needs to run a complete server install.
Yeah, many of them are like that.
May be a good idea but thats like me building tools to build tools to build a tool to do a job for something I'm working on for a project. already have too many projects sliding from something doable in a month to them taking years - - - - and I'm not 20 no more - - - grin!
Might be a good idea though!!
Try Zim wiki. It's a desktop wiki program that installs on your computer like any other program without you having to run a server. It's included in the package manager of several distributions of GNU/Linux, is also available for Mac and Windows, and offers a PPA or can be downloaded directly.
It creates a personal desktop environment much like you described in your original post and is capable of readjusting lists when you insert into them the same way LibreOffice Writer does and can also link to and provide an interface for working with other pages.
Between Geany, LibreOffice Writer, and Zim, all my coding and writing needs of various kinds are completely met. I'm very content with this little trio of power tools.
Feel free to email me directly off of the list if you'd like to explore Zim and need any help with it. I use it daily for certain tasks.
Thank you for your generous offer!
Time to do some lookee seeing!
Thanks for the pointers folks!!!!
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 11:53 PM Lex Trotman via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 at 13:13, o1bigtenor via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Greetings
I'm working on a project.
Want to outline it something like this:
page 1 - title page some questions page 2 - list of steps (presently have some at least 13 steps) subsequent pages are one page (or set) per step
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
No ;-P
Talking about "pages" etc suggests you are either using a text markup language or are expecting Geany to act like a word processor. If the former then the questions are probably best directed to the forums associated with that markup language which you have not mentioned, if its the second, Geany is not a word processor, use Libre Office or MS Word or similar.
Digging through LibreOffice writer - - - bubkies!
Now how can I create an outline wither the outline has a link from each line to another document - - - hmmmmmmm - - - - sure can't find any tools to do that and I'm not enough of a programmer type to even know how to attempt that so it might have to be a 'me behind the scenes moving pieces' kind of a thing - - - LOL.
Thanks for responding!
On Friday, December 30, 2022 10:12:19 PM o1bigtenor via Users wrote:
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
Yes. And I'm reasonalbly certain it can be done in Geany. The key would be finding a way to insert a form feed character at the bottom of each page. That shouild work for printing.
If youi intend to display your project electronically, we'd need to know how (with what software) you iintend to present it. If you intend to use HTML, I'm fairly certain there is a form feed or page break type markup that will start a new page.
From a quick google search:
' https://www.asciihex.com › character › control › 12 › 0x0C › ff-form-feed ASCII character FF - Form Feed. ^L. Dec: 12, Bin: 00001100, Hex: 0C Form feed is an ASCII control character, which breaks the page. It makes the printer to throw out the current page and then to keep on printing at the top of another any. It will also cause a carriage return in many cases. The definition of form feed character code is 12 (0xC in hexadecimal). It also may be represented as control+L or ^L. '
Maybe someone else will know how to enter a form feed character in Geany (or if it is possible).
I think this is not possible, because Geany is an editor.
I would use TeX specifically ConTeXt to do this. This typesetting system will honor all changes of numbering due to insertions. It is based on purely text files the output is pdf. May be not the most simple environment to start, but worthwhile considering. For general information look at http://www.pragma-ade.com/. There is an extensive Wiki for this system: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page
Kind regards
Willi
On 31 Dec 2022, at 04:12, o1bigtenor via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
Greetings
I'm working on a project.
Want to outline it something like this:
page 1 - title page some questions page 2 - list of steps (presently have some at least 13 steps) subsequent pages are one page (or set) per step
What I would like to have: write out list of steps each step is a page (or group - whatever it takes to put enough down to get the item done!) if I add a new step into the list the rest just move down one number and my work continues.
Is this something (maybe a chapter page (my list) and then each chapter is the function) that I can easily set up in Geany?
(Does this question make any sense to anyone else - - - rueful grin!).
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2022 at 9:24 AM Willi Egger via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
I think this is not possible, because Geany is an editor.
I would use TeX specifically ConTeXt to do this. This typesetting system will honor all changes of numbering due to insertions. It is based on purely text files the output is pdf. May be not the most simple environment to start, but worthwhile considering. For general information look at http://www.pragma-ade.com/. There is an extensive Wiki for this system: https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page
Interesting - - - given the complexity of TeX - - - I'm thinking I'm going to use a me behind the curtain doing things kind of engine - - - grin!
Thanks
On 2022-12-31 10:22, o1bigtenor via Users wrote:
I would use TeX specifically ConTeXt to do this.
Interesting - - - given the complexity of TeX - - - I'm thinking I'm going to use a me behind the curtain doing things kind of engine - - - grin!
Sphinx is good for technical writing, simpler than printed-page-oriented typesetting, and yet more powerful than a folder full of text files, while being that.
There are alternatives like AsciiDoc, MakeDocs!, but I can't vouch for them.
Oh well, keep it simple, there is always Markdown which is a supported filetype. Not sure if the Markdown plugin still works, but if it does it provides a preview.
Cheers Lex
On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 06:59, Geany User via Users users@lists.geany.org wrote:
On 2022-12-31 10:22, o1bigtenor via Users wrote:
I would use TeX specifically ConTeXt to do this.
Interesting - - - given the complexity of TeX - - - I'm thinking I'm going to use a me behind the curtain doing things kind of engine - - - grin!
Sphinx is good for technical writing, simpler than printed-page-oriented typesetting, and yet more powerful than a folder full of text files, while being that.
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Hey there,
Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Oh well, keep it simple, there is always Markdown which is a supported filetype. Not sure if the Markdown plugin still works, but if it does it provides a preview.
It still works. I used it a few months ago before switching to Kubuntu, which provides a Markdown viewer by default.
I have used the markdown plugin but it just provides a view function by converting the markdown to html and displaying it. If you are going to use markdown for a major project, I would suggest a dedicated markdown editor lilke Marktext or Typora (my own favorite).
On Sun, Jan 1, 2023, at 18:07, Little Girl via Users wrote:
Hey there,
Lex Trotman via Users wrote:
Oh well, keep it simple, there is always Markdown which is a supported filetype. Not sure if the Markdown plugin still works, but if it does it provides a preview.
It still works. I used it a few months ago before switching to Kubuntu, which provides a Markdown viewer by default.
-- Little Girl
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Hey there,
Sam wrote:
I have used the markdown plugin but it just provides a view function by converting the markdown to html and displaying it. If you are going to use markdown for a major project, I would suggest a dedicated markdown editor lilke Marktext or Typora (my own favorite).
Thanks for the recommendations, but I just dabble in Markdown when I contribute to other projects in small ways, so all I needed was a local viewer and the plug-in gave me that. I'm also all about doing any kind of coding and markup in Geany (everything about it just feels right), so having the viewer as a plug-in gave me the best of both worlds.
Now that I use Kubuntu 22.04 LTS, the plug-in is no longer needed, so my current approach is to create this "View" command inside of the "Markdown commands" section of Geany's "Set Build Commands" interface:
ebook-viewer "%f"
That way, I can write and edit Markdown in Geany and click Geany's Compile button in the toolbar any time I want to see the result.