I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
As it is now, if multiple files with the same name are open, the "Open files" tab doesn't provide a way to discriminate which is which.
If implemented, the "Open files" tab would need to have a horizontal scroll for times when the pathnames are long. Currently, if I open a file with a very long name, it doesn't look like I get that horizontal scroll bar as I do with the Symbols tab.
---John
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:17:52 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
Yes sounds good. I'll add it after the 0.12 release.
If implemented, the "Open files" tab would need to have a horizontal scroll for times when the pathnames are long. Currently, if I open a file with a very long name, it doesn't look like I get that horizontal scroll bar as I do with the Symbols tab.
The horizontal scrollbar was enabled with SVN r1932.
Regards, Enrico
If at all possible, rather than make every line in the open files list huge, consider a tree-control structure such as that shown on the attached. It is my idea of smoothly navigating thru a bunch of buffers. (This from a windows platform, but the Linux version looks similar with the directories being something like "/home/me/coding/debug/...").
Directories are sorted and can be expanded or closed, as some are shown in the picture. Some of the closed directories in the picture have 15 or so open files. (ok, it makes it trivial to remember what is where, etc.)
To get to the open files list window (which is docked like Geany's), I use a key shortcut. I can move about, up and down, expanding and contracting directory listings with arrow keys. I can select a file with Enter, or just close the window and go back to editing with another shortcut.
I guess I like this way of handling open files/buffers. And since I am often juggling many many files...
Thanks for listening.
chuck
Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:17:52 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
Yes sounds good. I'll add it after the 0.12 release.
If implemented, the "Open files" tab would need to have a horizontal scroll for times when the pathnames are long. Currently, if I open a file with a very long name, it doesn't look like I get that horizontal scroll bar as I do with the Symbols tab.
The horizontal scrollbar was enabled with SVN r1932.
Regards, Enrico
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On 10/8/07, chuck ctl@arrowtwins.com wrote:
If at all possible, rather than make every line in the open files list huge, consider a tree-control structure such as that shown on the attached.
Of course, the tree widget would probably be ideal here, but I'm guessing it's a lot more work. And I didn't want to ask for too much. :)
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:14:30 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/8/07, chuck ctl@arrowtwins.com wrote:
If at all possible, rather than make every line in the open files list huge, consider a tree-control structure such as that shown on the attached.
Of course, the tree widget would probably be ideal here, but I'm guessing it's a lot more work. And I didn't want to ask for too much. :)
Well, yes it would be nice to have a tree widget there. But I won't implement it because there are lots of other things to do with higher priority (at least for me ;-)). Anyway, if anyone wants to write a patch, it will be welcome.
Regards, Enrico
Hi,
(after a long time of not writing at this list.....)
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:44:15 -0500 "Jeff Pohlmeyer" yetanothergeek@gmail.com wrote:
consider a tree-control structure such as that shown on the attached.
I hope I don't see Geany becoming Nautilus with a text editor pasted on the side ;-)
Me too. At least because of the dependencies. ;D
Frank
On 10/9/07, Jeff Pohlmeyer yetanothergeek@gmail.com wrote:
consider a tree-control structure such as that shown on the attached.
I hope I don't see Geany becoming Nautilus with a text editor pasted on the side ;-)
Oooo. You don't like that screenshot? It seems rather functional to me, though it might be better to not repeat all that path information. That is, instead of
(V) /path/to/a file1 file2 file3 (>) /path/to/b (>) /path/to/c
less repetitive would be
(V) /path/to (V) a file1 file2 file3 (>) b (>) c
Anyhow, it's not a whole filesystem browser -- just a browser for the current list of open files. (Geany arguably already has a filesystem browser: the Open file dialog.)
You figure, Geany's already got a tree view in the Symbols tab, so having it in the Open files tab doesn't really add anything new. Actually, it would make things more consistent -- *especially* if they eventually both featured the same speedy keyboard navigation shortcuts...
---John
What about if you hover over the file name in the open files tab, it shows the full name in a tooltip?
"Hover" means mouse. Not desirable to me, but it may be OK for you who don't mind it.
chuck
Rob van der Linde wrote:
What about if you hover over the file name in the open files tab, it shows the full name in a tooltip?
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I think some folks (me included) are hoping to eventually be able access items in the "Open files" pane using only the keyboard. Part of being able to use it quickly would include seeing the path information already there.
---John
On 10/8/07, Rob van der Linde robvdl@gmail.com wrote:
What about if you hover over the file name in the open files tab, it shows the full name in a tooltip?
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:29:35 +1300, Rob van der Linde robvdl@gmail.com wrote:
What about if you hover over the file name in the open files tab, it shows the full name in a tooltip?
Nice idea. I just added the tooltip even though it works only if Geany is built against GTK 2.12 or newer because before it was not possible (at least not with a reasonable effort) to add per row tooltips to a tree widget.
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:15:11 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:17:52 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
Yes sounds good. I'll add it after the 0.12 release.
Done in SVN r1941.
About the treeview idea: as I told in another mail in this thread, I won't work on this but would accept any patches.
Regards, Enrico
On 10/13/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:15:11 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:17:52 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
Yes sounds good. I'll add it after the 0.12 release.
Done in SVN r1941.
Nice. Thanks. :)
One thing I notice though: when going back from full paths to simple names, the scroll bar on the bottom doesn't re-zero itself.
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
---John
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/13/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:15:11 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:17:52 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
I think it would make file navigation easier for some users if the "Open files" tab in the Sidebar had a right-click option (possibly along with an accompanying sub-checkbox for the "Preferences --> Interface tab --> Sidebar section --> Show open files list" checkbox) to show the filenames prefixed with their full paths, sorted by the complete pathname (rather than just the filename at the end).
Yes sounds good. I'll add it after the 0.12 release.
Done in SVN r1941.
Nice. Thanks. :)
One thing I notice though: when going back from full paths to simple names, the scroll bar on the bottom doesn't re-zero itself.
Yes but it is more or less only a cosmetic issue. I don't how to reset the scrolbar so that it disappers by itself. If anyone knows the trick, please tell me.
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
Regards, Enrico
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
However, I found a trick: if I switch to the Symbols tab, and then back to the Open files tab, I can then toggle the path info once.
---John
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:16:27 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
-H-
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:54:02 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:16:27 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full path names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:05 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
GTK 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (Xubuntu Gutsy 7.10)
-H-
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:02:01 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:05 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
GTK 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (Xubuntu Gutsy 7.10)
Fine, so we can safely exclude GTK and it is probably my code ;-).
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:08:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:02:01 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:05 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
GTK 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (Xubuntu Gutsy 7.10)
Fine, so we can safely exclude GTK and it is probably my code ;-).
Could you try SVN r1946. I changed the signal for the menu item from "activate" to "toggled" but I have no idea whether it helps because it works for me fine in both ways ;-(.
Regards, Enrico
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:16:34 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:08:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:02:01 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:05 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
> It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs > dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking > and using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane. Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
GTK 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (Xubuntu Gutsy 7.10)
Fine, so we can safely exclude GTK and it is probably my code ;-).
Could you try SVN r1946. I changed the signal for the menu item from "activate" to "toggled" but I have no idea whether it helps because it works for me fine in both ways ;-(.
Nope, still bugged here...
I've: * installed Geany r1946 * opened Geany (6 files opened from last session) * opened the "open files" tab * set it to show the full path names * OK * set it NOT to show the full path names * no go * opened the "Symbols" tab * opened the "Open files tab"
!!! a different tab is activated in the editor (the 5th) !!!
* set it NOT to show the full path names * OK
So there is a bug hidden here somewhere...
-H-
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:10:00 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:16:34 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:08:56 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:02:01 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:59:05 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
>> It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the >> Prefs dialog. It does not toggle properly for me when >> right-clicking and using the checkbox in the "Open files" >> pane. > Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine > here with GTK 2.12.
Yes, it's kinda buggy here. Sometimes the "rightclick->show full..." toggle works, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm unable to tell you the exact steps to get it to stop functioning, but it works again if you switch to the Symbol list and back...
GTK version? Not that I want to blame it on GTK but maybe it is in some way related.
GTK 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (Xubuntu Gutsy 7.10)
Fine, so we can safely exclude GTK and it is probably my code ;-).
Could you try SVN r1946. I changed the signal for the menu item from "activate" to "toggled" but I have no idea whether it helps because it works for me fine in both ways ;-(.
Nope, still bugged here...
I've:
- installed Geany r1946
- opened Geany (6 files opened from last session)
- opened the "open files" tab
- set it to show the full path names
- OK
- set it NOT to show the full path names
- no go
- opened the "Symbols" tab
- opened the "Open files tab"
!!! a different tab is activated in the editor (the 5th) !!!
this is a different bug and should be fixed in SVN r1948.
Regards, Enrico
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:56:59 +0200, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:10:00 +0200, Harold Aling h.aling@home.nl
!!! a different tab is activated in the editor (the 5th) !!!
this is a different bug and should be fixed in SVN r1948.
Fix confirmed...
-H-
On 15/10/07 14:16:27, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full
path
names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs
dialog.
It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using
the
checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
I get this with GTK 2.8, also with the "toggled" signal change.
Steps to reproduce: Right click in Open Files list, choose show full path names - this works the first time. Repeat the right click menu item - this and all later repeats don't work, until the sidebar notebook pages are switched.
Regards, Nick
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:32:48 +0100, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
On 15/10/07 14:16:27, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/14/07, Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:32:57 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it seems that I'm now unable to go back to showing full
path
names, after doing so once.
Not sure what you mean. If I change the full path setting by clicking the checkbox in the open files popup menu, I can do it again and again and again. It toggles between full path and only base file name.
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs
dialog.
It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and using
the
checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here with GTK 2.12.
I get this with GTK 2.8, also with the "toggled" signal change.
Steps to reproduce: Right click in Open Files list, choose show full path names - this works the first time. Repeat the right click menu item - this and all later repeats don't work, until the sidebar notebook pages are switched.
Either I'm doing something wrong or I don't know. I can't reproduce it, it just works here. I'm completely confused ;-).
Regards, Enrico
On 15/10/07 16:41:59, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:32:48 +0100, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
On 15/10/07 14:16:27, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs
dialog.
It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and > >
using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here
with
GTK 2.12.
I get this with GTK 2.8, also with the "toggled" signal change.
Steps to reproduce: Right click in Open Files list, choose show full path names - this works the first time. Repeat the right click menu item - this and all later repeats don't work, until the sidebar notebook pages are switched.
Either I'm doing something wrong or I don't know. I can't reproduce it, it just works here. I'm completely confused ;-).
This should be fixed now in SVN.
The problem occurred when there was no selected item in the open files list (now documents list) after using the full path name item once, then right clicking outside of any items to use the item again.
Regards, Nick
On 10/24/07, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
This should be fixed now in SVN.
The problem occurred when there was no selected item in the open files list (now documents list) after using the full path name item once, then right clicking outside of any items to use the item again.
Nice bug-hunting, Nick! :)
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:23:27 +0100, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
On 15/10/07 16:41:59, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:32:48 +0100, Nick Treleaven nick.treleaven@btinternet.com wrote:
On 15/10/07 14:16:27, Enrico Tröger wrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:55:23 -0400, "John Gabriele" jmg3000@gmail.com wrote:
It toggles fine for me when I access the option via the Prefs
dialog.
It does not toggle properly for me when right-clicking and >
using the checkbox in the "Open files" pane.
Does anyone else experience this behaviour? It works fine here
with
GTK 2.12.
I get this with GTK 2.8, also with the "toggled" signal change.
Steps to reproduce: Right click in Open Files list, choose show full path names - this works the first time. Repeat the right click menu item - this and all later repeats don't work, until the sidebar notebook pages are switched.
Either I'm doing something wrong or I don't know. I can't reproduce it, it just works here. I'm completely confused ;-).
This should be fixed now in SVN.
The problem occurred when there was no selected item in the open files list (now documents list) after using the full path name item once, then right clicking outside of any items to use the item again.
I see, I never tried the popup menu without selecting an item. I always right-clicked on a certain file so there was always a selection.
Regards, Enrico
