Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
Thank.
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0200, jerome mister.jerome@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
The last file you've closed should be on top of the "recent files" list but reopening that file doesn't restore the undo history and such...
A 'undo close tab' function under the right mouseclick menu of the tabs could be handy though...
-H-
Harold Aling a écrit :
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0200, jerome mister.jerome@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
The last file you've closed should be on top of the "recent files" list but reopening that file doesn't restore the undo history and such...
A 'undo close tab' function under the right mouseclick menu of the tabs could be handy though...
-H- _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
Yes. it's right for the recent files.
As you say, to restore the history and other functions related to the file is good idea. And why not enlarge this functinnality to all file open with Geany. When close a file, save the history and restore it when reopen the file. A maximum size may be specified to prevent using too much disk space.
I don't know if this is really useful but it is original :D
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:19:21 +0200, jerome wrote:
Harold Aling a écrit :
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0200, jerome mister.jerome@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
The last file you've closed should be on top of the "recent files" list but reopening that file doesn't restore the undo history and such...
A 'undo close tab' function under the right mouseclick menu of the tabs could be handy though...
-H- _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
Yes. it's right for the recent files.
As you say, to restore the history and other functions related to the file is good idea. And why not enlarge this functinnality to all file open with Geany. When close a file, save the history and restore it when reopen the file. A maximum size may be specified to prevent using too much disk space.
I don't know if this is really useful but it is original :D
And there goes it away: Geany, a fast and lightweight IDE.
This would be a major step in not being fast and not being lightweight anymore. See Firefox...once praised as fast, small new webbrowser and what is it now? A damn huge slow big chunk of software which feels slow and sluggish even on modern computers.
As Harold said already, the top most item of the recent files list re-opens the file again. I don't see any need to restore (and therefore keep) any previous data of the closed tab.
Regards, Enrico
Enrico Tröger schrieb:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:19:21 +0200, jerome wrote:
Harold Aling a écrit :
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0200, jerome mister.jerome@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
The last file you've closed should be on top of the "recent files" list but reopening that file doesn't restore the undo history and such...
A 'undo close tab' function under the right mouseclick menu of the tabs could be handy though...
-H- _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
Yes. it's right for the recent files.
As you say, to restore the history and other functions related to the file is good idea. And why not enlarge this functinnality to all file open with Geany. When close a file, save the history and restore it when reopen the file. A maximum size may be specified to prevent using too much disk space.
I don't know if this is really useful but it is original :D
And there goes it away: Geany, a fast and lightweight IDE.
This would be a major step in not being fast and not being lightweight anymore. See Firefox...once praised as fast, small new webbrowser and what is it now? A damn huge slow big chunk of software which feels slow and sluggish even on modern computers.
As Harold said already, the top most item of the recent files list re-opens the file again. I don't see any need to restore (and therefore keep) any previous data of the closed tab.
Regards, Enrico
How about giving actual reasons to not do it, instead of complaining about totally unrelated software?
Best regards.
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:05:18 +0200, Thomas wrote:
Enrico Tröger schrieb:
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:19:21 +0200, jerome wrote:
Harold Aling a écrit :
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:00:39 +0200, jerome mister.jerome@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
Sometimes, I close tab by cliking on the cross accidentally.
It's possible to include the possiblilty to restore the last close tab by history as in Firefox ?
The last file you've closed should be on top of the "recent files" list but reopening that file doesn't restore the undo history and such...
A 'undo close tab' function under the right mouseclick menu of the tabs could be handy though...
-H- _______________________________________________ Geany mailing list Geany@uvena.de http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany
Yes. it's right for the recent files.
As you say, to restore the history and other functions related to the file is good idea. And why not enlarge this functinnality to all file open with Geany. When close a file, save the history and restore it when reopen the file. A maximum size may be specified to prevent using too much disk space.
I don't know if this is really useful but it is original :D
And there goes it away: Geany, a fast and lightweight IDE.
This would be a major step in not being fast and not being lightweight anymore. See Firefox...once praised as fast, small new webbrowser and what is it now? A damn huge slow big chunk of software which feels slow and sluggish even on modern computers.
As Harold said already, the top most item of the recent files list re-opens the file again. I don't see any need to restore (and therefore keep) any previous data of the closed tab.
Regards, Enrico
How about giving actual reasons to not do it, instead of complaining about totally unrelated software?
Here we go: to restore the undo history of the last closed tab we need to keep it in memory somehow, this also means we need to get it from Scintilla and then on restoring we need to get it back into Scintilla. There is no such API for that, AFAIK. So, we would need lots of new code in Geany *and* in Scintilla. Or we would have to keep the whole Scintilla object when closing a tab.
The above is only for *one* tab and only for the undo history, not to mention saving/restoring symbol list state, folding state, selection state or whatever. Jerome even requests this for many/all files and want to save it even on disk between sessions.
Some time ago, there was a similar discussion[1] about saving things like cursor position, selection state and more not only for session files but for files in general. One solution how this could be solved would be to use xattr and similar techniques or some kind of database which stores metadata for each files which was ever opened in Geany (and maybe with some cleanup mechanism).
I don't want something like this in Geany. If anyone wants to write a plugin which implements any of the above mentioned functionality, this is completely ok and cool.
[1] http://lists.uvena.de/pipermail/geany-devel/2008-December/000365.html
Regards, Enrico
Am 31.03.2009 20:18, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
I don't want something like this in Geany. If anyone wants to write a plugin which implements any of the above mentioned functionality, this is completely ok and cool.
[1] http://lists.uvena.de/pipermail/geany-devel/2008-December/000365.html
Regards, Enrico
Fine :) Now, if you would sent the emails twice, and would stop full-quoting emails (rather than only the relevant parts), the world would be perfect for me ;)
Best regards.
Hi Thomas,
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 05:36, Thomas Martitiz s0523936@fhtw-berlin.de wrote:
Fine :) Now, if you would sent the emails twice, and would stop full-quoting emails....
I have no idea who you are but a bit of friendly advice. You are probably not on the right track to convincing Enrico (or any of the other developers) to write this for you. I have always found Enrico (and Frank) to be extremely helpful and for that I thank them.
Comments such as the above and you previous reply help no-one and probably just make Enrico (and others) wonder why they bother spending so much time developing Geany. I see the "smiley" but this does not hide, forgive or remove your trite tone.
Now lets all move on and get back to doing what we all do best.
-- Andrew Janke (a.janke@gmail.com || http://a.janke.googlepages.com/) Canberra->Australia +61 (402) 700 883
Andrew Janke schrieb:
I have no idea who you are but a bit of friendly advice. You are probably not on the right track to convincing Enrico (or any of the other developers) to write this for you. I have always found Enrico (and Frank) to be extremely helpful and for that I thank them.
Comments such as the above and you previous reply help no-one and probably just make Enrico (and others) wonder why they bother spending so much time developing Geany. I see the "smiley" but this does not hide, forgive or remove your trite tone.
Now lets all move on and get back to doing what we all do best.
I wasn't not trying to convince him, nevertheless his complaints about Firefox didn't explain anything about why it isn't going to be done, making his whole post poorly helpful to the thread.
I'm not the one asking for the feature (and I don't plan to ask for it), but I'm still curious why features are rejected.
Best regards.
Thomas Martitz wrote:
I wasn't not trying to convince him, nevertheless his complaints about Firefox didn't explain anything about why it isn't going to be done, making his whole post poorly helpful to the thread.
I'm not the one asking for the feature (and I don't plan to ask for it), but I'm still curious why features are rejected.
I am an old faithful user of Geany who was just watching this thread. Now I would like to comment.
Please keep Geany lightweight and simple with zero bloat. Please don't add any such features which makes it another Visual Studio or Eclipse or Netbeans. Yes! Those are good editors, still a bloatware for my needs. Firefox is my favorite browser, still I fell that it has becomes slow of late. New and new features are continuously making it bulky. This is what not at all required. Geany i well known for its lightweight and as a *hardly-any-dependency* application.
Enrico is like a God to this thread and Geany. I salute him! Keep on your work. If anyone doesnt like the current features of Geany, they can make a plugin or more fork the application development. After all its under GPL. These all are feature requests, not feature demands. The Geany developers have full right to turn them down, since they are also bound by their time constraints.
Geany devs! Keep rocking!
Yeh, I gotta pipe up here too. I've been using Geany on Linux and Windows for a couple years (gee, time flies). I do the major development stuff in visual studio. It's got all the bells and whistles and horns and lights and da da da.... But when I just want to write something quick and dirty (mostly 'c' some html) I like to be able to click on the icon and a half second later there's geany. When I click on VS, 5 minutes later there's the studio.
Geany is a GREAT tool. Please don't make it a 'big deal' IDE.
and Enrico, thanks!
For Sale: Nice Parachute, Used Once, Never Opened, Slightly Stained
Michael Comperchio mcmprch@gmail.com
On Mar 31, 2009, at 9:30 PM, Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा) wrote:
Thomas Martitz wrote:
I wasn't not trying to convince him, nevertheless his complaints about Firefox didn't explain anything about why it isn't going to be done, making his whole post poorly helpful to the thread.
I'm not the one asking for the feature (and I don't plan to ask for it), but I'm still curious why features are rejected.
I am an old faithful user of Geany who was just watching this thread. Now I would like to comment.
Please keep Geany lightweight and simple with zero bloat. Please don't add any such features which makes it another Visual Studio or Eclipse or Netbeans. Yes! Those are good editors, still a bloatware for my needs. Firefox is my favorite browser, still I fell that it has becomes slow of late. New and new features are continuously making it bulky. This is what not at all required. Geany i well known for its lightweight and as a *hardly-any-dependency* application.
Enrico is like a God to this thread and Geany. I salute him! Keep on your work. If anyone doesnt like the current features of Geany, they can make a plugin or more fork the application development. After all its under GPL. These all are feature requests, not feature demands. The Geany developers have full right to turn them down, since they are also bound by their time constraints.
Geany devs! Keep rocking!
-- Manish Sinha
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:40:15 -0400, Michael wrote:
Yeh, I gotta pipe up here too. I've been using Geany on Linux and Windows for a couple years (gee, time flies). I do the major development stuff in visual studio. It's got all the bells and whistles and horns and lights and da da da.... But when I just want to write something quick and dirty (mostly 'c' some html) I like to be able to click on the icon and a half second later there's geany. When I click on VS, 5 minutes later there's the studio.
Geany is a GREAT tool. Please don't make it a 'big deal' IDE.
Thanks guys, very sweet. Even if I don't think Thomas intended any offence. He was completely right about asking for more detailed reasons than just flaming about Firefox :). And he was also right about my quoting style, I could have done this better. Regarding the double mail he received (Thomas and I talked about that shortly on IRC afterwards), I'm not yet sure. If only he got my mail twice, it was probably a problem between uvena's mail server and his one, if anyone else got that mail twice, please make some noise.
To get slightly back to the topic: the restore tab feature(and some of the extensions I and others mentioned) probably can be implemented as a plugin, missing bits in the plugin API can be added as necessary. No problem at all.
And in general, I really hate rejecting features but I also hate to get away from the initial goal: being lightweight. We are already much more away from this than I'd like though this doesn't mean we won't add more features in the future, just to not add *anything*.
and Enrico, thanks!
Don't forget Nick and Frank, who are also developing Geany and doing a great job too. It's not me alone! And of course, don't forget all the contributors, Thomas is one of them.
For Sale: Nice Parachute, Used Once, Never Opened, Slightly Stained
Hahaha.
Regards, Enrico
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Thomas Martitz thomas.martitz@student.htw-berlin.de wrote:
I wasn't not trying to convince him, nevertheless his complaints about Firefox didn't explain anything about why it isn't going to be done, making his whole post poorly helpful to the thread.
I'm not the one asking for the feature (and I don't plan to ask for it), but I'm still curious why features are rejected.
He actually did explain, even in his first response. If you go back and read it, you will see that the very first thing he said was that adding that feature would make Geany bigger and slower.
He then brought up Firefox to show the path that he did not want Geany to follow.
It was very clear to me already from his first response, but he continued with a second, more detailed response anyway. I think he has done more than enough to explain why he's not adding the feature to Geany.
Really, I have to say the developers of Geany are not only good at software, but very patient in dealing with people as well. Much more patient and helpful than average, in my opinion.
John