I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here.
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Cheers Lex
On 17 July 2015 at 22:21, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:37, Lex Trotman wrote:
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Where do I have to create this file, so that Geany can find it? From the file name, I guess it should go in my "Home directory", but what is Geany assuming to by my Home on Windows?
Ronald
On 17 July 2015 at 22:21, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
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Am 17.07.2015 um 14:46 schrieb Ronald Fischer:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:37, Lex Trotman wrote:
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Where do I have to create this file, so that Geany can find it? From the file name, I guess it should go in my "Home directory", but what is Geany assuming to by my Home on Windows?
I guess it should be inside your .geany at %APPDATA%. Please proof me wrong if I'm so.
Cheers, Frank
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 15:11, Frank Lanitz wrote:
Am 17.07.2015 um 14:46 schrieb Ronald Fischer:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:37, Lex Trotman wrote:
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Where do I have to create this file, so that Geany can find it? From the file name, I guess it should go in my "Home directory", but what is Geany assuming to by my Home on Windows?
I guess it should be inside your .geany at %APPDATA%. Please proof me wrong if I'm so.
I tried the following:
- Create a file .gitr in my %APPDATA% directory - This file contains a single line
gtk-font-name = "Courier New 16"
- Restart Geany.
This had no visible effect. Either it's the wrong directory, or the wrong file name, or the wrong syntax for setting the font. I got the syntax for this from this webpage:
https://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Customizing_GTK_Apps
Ronald
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Le 17/07/2015 14:46, Ronald Fischer a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:37, Lex Trotman wrote:
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Where do I have to create this file, so that Geany can find it? From the file name, I guess it should go in my "Home directory", but what is Geany assuming to by my Home on Windows?
%UserProfile% I think. Anyway, on Windows 8 you can put it in C:\Users\yourself.gtkrc-2.0
Then there put something like this:
# ugly theme, but font setting below don't seem to work with the # default non-ugly Windows one gtk-theme-name = "Raleigh" # and set the font you want gtk-font-name = "Sans 14"
On 17 July 2015 at 22:21, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here.
How have you installed Geany? GTK? On which version of Windows? I just tried installing Geany 1.25 from the official installer on Windows 8, and it works just fine, and looks pretty much like native apps.
Or maybe you have a HiDPI screen? If that's so, I'm afraid GTK 2.x doesn't cope very well with this, but I think there is another workaround
Regards, Colomban
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 15:35, Colomban Wendling wrote:
Hi,
Le 17/07/2015 14:46, Ronald Fischer a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:37, Lex Trotman wrote:
Seems the theme for GTK is set too small.
You should be able to set those with the .gtkrc settings.
Where do I have to create this file, so that Geany can find it? From the file name, I guess it should go in my "Home directory", but what is Geany assuming to by my Home on Windows?
%UserProfile% I think. Anyway, on Windows 8 you can put it in C:\Users\yourself.gtkrc-2.0
I have Windows 7, but the C:\Users..... directory exists here too.
Then there put something like this:
# ugly theme, but font setting below don't seem to work with the # default non-ugly Windows one gtk-theme-name = "Raleigh"
Do I *have* to change the theme in the .gtkrc-2.0 file? I like Geany's "Standard" color schema and would prefer not changing it.
# and set the font you want gtk-font-name = "Sans 14"
I guess I have to put here a real font name from my system, right?. I used Courier New instead, but still no change.
On 17 July 2015 at 22:21, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here.
How have you installed Geany?
From the Geany website, running geany-1.25_setup.exe .
GTK?
I'm not aware having ever installed GTK. I guess it comes bundeled with Geany.
Or maybe you have a HiDPI screen?
How can I find out? Isn't this term only be used with Apple's Retina display? In any case, the laptop is already a few years old, and just has the usual resolution, so I guess the answer is "no".
If that's so, I'm afraid GTK 2.x doesn't cope very well with this, but I think there is another workaround
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Le 20/07/2015 12:15, Ronald Fischer a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 15:35, Colomban Wendling wrote:
[…] # ugly theme, but font setting below don't seem to work with the # default non-ugly Windows one gtk-theme-name = "Raleigh"
Do I *have* to change the theme in the .gtkrc-2.0 file? I like Geany's "Standard" color schema and would prefer not changing it.
changing the GTK theme will not change the highlighting in the editing area but the theme of the various UI elements. E.g. instead of being integrated with the Windows theme it'll be gray.
I guess the issue is that the default theme uses the Windows API to draw components, and then ignores the custom font set only for GTK (as it would use the ones set for Windows).
# and set the font you want gtk-font-name = "Sans 14"
I guess I have to put here a real font name from my system, right?. I used Courier New instead, but still no change.
"Sans" worked here as it's a virtual font meaning "the default sans-serif font", but sure use whichever font you like.
But again, this doesn't work if using the GTK theme integrating with the Windows theming system.
Regards, Colomban
Le 20/07/2015 16:02, Colomban Wendling a écrit :
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# and set the font you want gtk-font-name = "Sans 14"
I guess I have to put here a real font name from my system, right?. I used Courier New instead, but still no change.
"Sans" worked here as it's a virtual font meaning "the default sans-serif font", but sure use whichever font you like.
But again, this doesn't work if using the GTK theme integrating with the Windows theming system.
Wait! I found a way, and it's even very customizable :) It's actually the way to override specific fonts, and basically is the same we do for existing font overrides.
Instead of setting the "gtk-font-name" setting, override the specific widgets fonts:
For all GTK applications:
``` style "custom-font" { font_name = "Sans 16" } widget_class "<GtkWindow>.*" style "custom-font" ```
or for Geany only:
``` style "custom-font" { font_name = "Sans 16" } widget "GeanyMainWindow.*" style "custom-font" widget "Geany*Dialog*.*" style "custom-font" ```
The first applies to everything inside a GTK window (e.g. everything of every GTK applications), and the second only to Geany main window and dialogs. Unless you have other GTK using applications that you don't wanna change, I suggest you use the first solution that is a little simpler will more easily adapt to e.g. windows created by plugins.
And of course, customize the "font_name" as you like.
Hope this one works (did here).
Regards, Colomban
Am 17. Juli 2015 14:21:51 MESZ, schrieb Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Can you please provide a screen shot so that we can evaluate if it's expected or not?
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:38, Thomas Martitz wrote:
Am 17. Juli 2015 14:21:51 MESZ, schrieb Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Can you please provide a screen shot so that we can evaluate if it's expected or not?
Screenshot enclosed. As you can see, the text in the edit pane is easy to read. The font for the preferences dialogue is tiny and difficult to read.
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:38, Thomas Martitz wrote:
Am 17. Juli 2015 14:21:51 MESZ, schrieb Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here. _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users
Can you please provide a screen shot so that we can evaluate if it's expected or not?
Screenshot enclosed. As you can see, the text in the edit pane is easy to read. The font for the preferences dialogue is tiny and difficult to read.
Maybe I miss something but from the screenshot it looks the font is the same size like the default system font (judging from the desktop icon names and the Start button which have the same text size like Geany's dialogs). How does the font look in other applications you use? I guess it will be similarly small. Wouldn't changing default Windows font size help?
Cheers.
Jiri
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015, at 15:14, Jiří Techet wrote:
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015, at 14:38, Thomas Martitz wrote:
Am 17. Juli 2015 14:21:51 MESZ, schrieb Ronald Fischer ynnor@mm.st:
I have installed Geany 1.25 for Windows.
Different to version 1.24, the font used for, for example, the status line and the preference dialogue, is so small that it is very difficult for me to read it. Is there a way to change this font size? I found in the preferences three font settings, but none of these seem to apply here.
Screenshot enclosed. As you can see, the text in the edit pane is easy to read. The font for the preferences dialogue is tiny and difficult to read.
Maybe I miss something but from the screenshot it looks the font is the same size like the default system font (judging from the desktop icon names and the Start button which have the same text size like Geany's dialogs).
Thanks for your effort!
This is correct. I wasn't aware that Geany uses that font from the system which is used for the desktop icons. Windows uses various font settings - for example, defaults for the menus, defaults for the icons, defaults for the "main" text and so on. The font for the icons can be quite small, as long as I can decipher it. Doing this allows me to use the screen space better. However, the "preferences" dialogue contains a lot of text, and as such, it is pretty tedious to read it.
For example, I've set the icons to a 9 point font, and the menus, dialogues and the main text to 11 point. I would have expected, that a program, which allows users to already configure fonts for 3 different purposes, would also allow to consider the font used for the user interface, but even if this is not provided and a system font is used, it would make sense IMHO to use this system font which is used for dialogues, not the one used for icons, because things like setting the preferences is more akin to a dialogue that to an icon or a QuickInfo.
The problem with a laptop is that the screen *is* physically small. This means that one wants to make the fonts as small as possible, but they should be still usable. In particular, fonts attached to visual symbols - icons on the desktop, but also icons inside a program - don't need large fonts, because we have the pictorial representation too which helps. After all, this the whole idea of having an icon. Other text however need to be larger, in order to be easily readable.
How does the font look in other applications you use? I guess it will be similarly small.
It seems to vary. Some (the Pale Moon browser for instance) use larger fonts. Some (Outlook!) indeed use the same system font for the configuration which is used for the icons. Others seem to have the font-size hardwired. Of the editors, jedit allows to configure the font size of the user interface, which I find very convenient. I would appreciate, if Geany would offer too such a configuration....
Ronald
Le 20/07/2015 15:44, Ronald Fischer a écrit :
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How does the font look in other applications you use? I guess it will be similarly small.
It seems to vary. Some (the Pale Moon browser for instance) use larger fonts. Some (Outlook!) indeed use the same system font for the configuration which is used for the icons.
Hum, I'm afraid if a MS application like Outlook doesn't do as you like it probably means Windows isn't configured as you like (if it even is possible, I don't know).
The default theme GTK (GTK is the UI toolkit we use) uses on Windows relies on the Windows theming API to draw the components, so it should (unless it has bugs of course) follow what the Windows theming API thinks is right.
BTW, how did 1.24 look? I find it odd it changed, but maybe it did as we upgraded to a newer GTK version…
Regards, Colomban
BTW, how did 1.24 look? I find it odd it changed, but maybe it did as we upgraded to a newer GTK version…
It used a better font for the settings dialogue, but it had a bug in that it ignored the settings of the *editor* font (i.e. the font used to display the text which I'm editing), and the default used was a porportional font, which I don't like when editing programs. That was the main reason why I upgraded to 1.25.
Ronald
