Hello Geany users,
I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various* I do not have the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code.
Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line: sudo apt-get install geany)
Thank you very much for help.
Best regards, marco
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Le 28/02/2013 20:17, Marco Bianchi a écrit :
Hello Geany users,
I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various*I do not have the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code.
Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line: sudo apt-get install geany)
Weird. Do you have libvte9 installed? (which is NOT the same as libvte-2.90-9)
On 13-02-28 11:17 AM, Marco Bianchi wrote:
Hello Geany users,
I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I
Which version of Ubuntu?
have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various* I do not have the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code.
Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line: sudo apt-get install geany)
Under Preferences->General->Startup is "Load virtual terminal support" checked? Also, are you sure you aren't running Geany with "-t" or "--no-terminal" argument?
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
On 1 March 2013 07:41, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
On 13-02-28 11:17 AM, Marco Bianchi wrote:
Hello Geany users,
I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I
Which version of Ubuntu?
And which version of Geany? repositories are often way out of date.
Cheers Lex
have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various* I do not have the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to
paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code.
Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line: sudo apt-get install geany)
Under Preferences->General->Startup is "Load virtual terminal support" checked? Also, are you sure you aren't running Geany with "-t" or "--no-terminal" argument?
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
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On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Le 01/03/2013 02:43, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
My 2¢ Colomban
On 01/03/2013 10:27, Colomban Wendling wrote:
[...]
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
Why not just make it a hard dependency that's enabled by building against it at build time instead of dlopen()ing it?
On 13-02-28 06:54 PM, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:27, Colomban Wendling wrote:
[...]
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
Why not just make it a hard dependency that's enabled by building against it at build time instead of dlopen()ing it?
+1, it would clean up a fair bit of extra code needed to dlopen it too.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 18:56:19 -0800 Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Why not just make it a hard dependency that's enabled by building against it at build time instead of dlopen()ing it?
+1, it would clean up a fair bit of extra code needed to dlopen it too.
We had a discussion on the topic some time ago, when I found two crashes if Geany was compiled with vte support but started without libvte...
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On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:08:33 +1100 Lex Trotman elextr@gmail.com wrote:
IIUC that would mean that Geany binaries could not be run on any system without libvte9 installed, the user would have to re-compile?
And we had these argument as well...
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On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:24:37 +0100 Frank Lanitz frank@frank.uvena.de wrote:
Am 01.03.2013 05:10, schrieb Lex Trotman:
FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it can be a hard depends.
I like the normal terminal more than multiterm to be honest (sorry Matthew ;) ).
And so do I. Some time in the last year, I wanted to propose separating our VTE terminal into a plugin, but was too busy with Scope. It's not a very hard thing to to, though keeping the VTE prefs in the basic prefs dialog is easier with an extra "settings-after-save signal" for the plugin to be able to read the new values instead of the old ones. That'll benefit any other plugins with VTE as well. What do you think?
[and if we apply "project-before-save" too, the settings/project save will have similar signals - these are currently "save-settings"-before and "project-save"-after-option]
On 1 March 2013 13:54, Chow Loong Jin hyperair@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:27, Colomban Wendling wrote:
[...]
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
Why not just make it a hard dependency that's enabled by building against it at build time instead of dlopen()ing it?
IIUC that would mean that Geany binaries could not be run on any system without libvte9 installed, the user would have to re-compile? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.
Cheers Lex
-- Kind regards, Loong Jin
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On 01/03/2013 11:08, Lex Trotman wrote:
IIUC that would mean that Geany binaries could not be run on any system without libvte9 installed, the user would have to re-compile? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.
Conversely, what's the use-case of having binaries that were built with libvte9 support, but run on systems without libvte9 support? Is it somehow desirable to not have libvte9 installed?
On 1 March 2013 15:05, Chow Loong Jin hyperair@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 11:08, Lex Trotman wrote:
IIUC that would mean that Geany binaries could not be run on any system without libvte9 installed, the user would have to re-compile? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.
Conversely, what's the use-case of having binaries that were built with libvte9 support, but run on systems without libvte9 support? Is it somehow desirable to not have libvte9 installed?
Well, thats a user decision. Geany is supposed to require few dependencies to run.
FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it can be a hard depends.
Cheers Lex
-- Kind regards, Loong Jin
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On 01/03/2013 12:10, Lex Trotman wrote:
[...] FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it can be a hard depends.
+1. I was going to suggest that as well. It looks like I haven't made a binary package for that yet though.
On 1 March 2013 15:19, Chow Loong Jin hyperair@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 12:10, Lex Trotman wrote:
[...] FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it can be a hard depends.
+1. I was going to suggest that as well. It looks like I haven't made a binary package for that yet though.
No, it was added since the last release IIUC, but it will be in the next G-P release due next month.
Cheers lex
-- Kind regards, Loong Jin
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Am 01.03.2013 05:10, schrieb Lex Trotman:
FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it can be a hard depends.
I like the normal terminal more than multiterm to be honest (sorry Matthew ;) ).
Cheers, Frank
Am 01.03.2013 04:08, schrieb Lex Trotman:
On 1 March 2013 13:54, Chow Loong Jin hyperair@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 01/03/2013 10:27, Colomban Wendling wrote:
[...]
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
Why not just make it a hard dependency that's enabled by building against it at build time instead of dlopen()ing it?
IIUC that would mean that Geany binaries could not be run on any system without libvte9 installed, the user would have to re-compile? That doesn't sound acceptable to me.
I second this.
Cheers, Frank
Am 01.03.2013 03:27, schrieb Colomban Wendling:
Le 01/03/2013 02:43, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
I disagree. Geany is able to run without therefor it's only a suggestion to make usage of some cool feature.
Cheers, Frank
On 13-03-01 05:22 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
Am 01.03.2013 03:27, schrieb Colomban Wendling:
Le 01/03/2013 02:43, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
I disagree. Geany is able to run without therefor it's only a suggestion to make usage of some cool feature.
That's what plugins are for :)
Cheers, Matthew Brush
Am 02.03.2013 01:50, schrieb Matthew Brush:
On 13-03-01 05:22 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
Am 01.03.2013 03:27, schrieb Colomban Wendling:
Le 01/03/2013 02:43, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
I disagree. Geany is able to run without therefor it's only a suggestion to make usage of some cool feature.
That's what plugins are for :)
Putting the traditional VTE into a plugin as Jimmy mentioned would be fine for me.
Cheers, Frank
Le 02/03/2013 09:01, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
Am 02.03.2013 01:50, schrieb Matthew Brush:
On 13-03-01 05:22 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:
[...]
That's what plugins are for :)
Putting the traditional VTE into a plugin as Jimmy mentioned would be fine for me.
Why not, but as said in the other thread I don't see how it would interact with Geany as much as it currently does, and I don't like the idea of adding hackery to remove hackery.
So, if there's a clean working plugin for that it'd probably be nice; but if it's as hacky as SplitWindow currently is, I'm not sure I'd second that.
Cheers, Colomban
Le 01/03/2013 14:22, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
Am 01.03.2013 03:27, schrieb Colomban Wendling:
Le 01/03/2013 02:43, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
On 01/03/2013 04:41, Matthew Brush wrote:
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
hyperair@thinkpwn:~% apt-cache depends geany | grep vte Suggests: libvte9
That's suggests, not recommends, so it's not dragged in by default.
Hum, it probably should become a recommend IMHO, it's an important feature and it used to be available to most people (because libvte9 used to be installed by other apps like gnome-terminal, which now depends on libvte-2.90-9).
I disagree. Geany is able to run without therefor it's only a suggestion to make usage of some cool feature.
IIUC, recommends are for things that are optional, but that provide support for important features/whatever. E.g., for something most users would want, but that's still optional. And I think VTE support is such a thing :)
But that's packaging stuff I don't care much, unless it starts giving us reports like OP's one about "where my VTE has gone" (and it probably will…).
Cheers, Colomban
Hello,
yes the load virtual terminal support was checked in. i installed the libvte9 library and the terminal tab now regularly appears. That is, problem is solved after installing libvte9 library.
Many thanks for your help and support.
Best regards, marco
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
On 13-02-28 11:17 AM, Marco Bianchi wrote:
Hello Geany users,
I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I
Which version of Ubuntu?
have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various* I do not have
the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to
paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code.
Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line: sudo apt-get install geany)
Under Preferences->General->Startup is "Load virtual terminal support" checked? Also, are you sure you aren't running Geany with "-t" or "--no-terminal" argument?
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
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Hello,
yes the load virtual terminal support was checked in. i installed
the libvte9 library and the terminal tab now regularly appears. That is, problem is solved after installing libvte9 library.
Many thanks for your help and support.
Best regards, marcoOn Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Matthew Brush <mbrush-
TwnWXa85xYIqAKPh0sYIvA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On 13-02-28 11:17 AM, Marco Bianchi wrote: Hello Geany users, I have just installed Geany on Ubuntu and when I open the preferences I
Which version of Ubuntu? have tab General, Interface, ..., Various but after Various* I do not have the Terminal tab (see image below)*, which is what I wanted to access to
paste and copy commands to the terminal to execute small pieces of code. Have I made a mistake in installing geany (i used on the command line:
sudo
apt-get install geany)
Under Preferences->General->Startup is "Load virtual terminal support"
checked? Also, are you sure you aren't running Geany with "-t" or "--no- terminal" argument?
Otherwise it's probably like Colomban mentioned that you don't have the
required libvte package, although I would've assumed installing Geany from the repositories would've dragged that it automatically.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
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Today (July 2013) I made a brand new installation on a brand new hard disk and this time around I have a problem unexpectedly even when libvte9 is correctly installed. In Preferences I have the Terminal TAB no problem but when I copy and paste a few lines of codes to compile, there is no pasting to terminal. Any idea why?
Marco
Marco Bianchi <marcolondonuk@...> writes:
On 25/07/2013 10:53, Marco Bianchi wrote:
Today (July 2013) I made a brand new installation on a brand new hard disk and this time around I have a problem unexpectedly even when libvte9 is correctly installed. In Preferences I have the Terminal TAB no problem but when I copy and paste a few lines of codes to compile, there is no pasting to terminal. Any idea why?
BTW, it's best to start a new thread for this question, more people may see it.
From the screenshot you sent me it looks like the terminal is not starting up properly, just the caret symbol in the top left. It may be a problem with your libvte version. Just to check, have you edited any Terminal-related preferences?
Nick
Hello Nick,
thank you for your message. Yes I have only changed the input in Shell as below, to run R.
I agree it looks like a bug in libvte, but no idea how to deal with that. I will post new post to geany userlist.
marco
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Nick Treleaven < nick.treleaven@btinternet.com> wrote:
On 25/07/2013 10:53, Marco Bianchi wrote:
Today (July 2013) I made a brand new installation on a brand new hard disk and this time around I have a problem unexpectedly even when libvte9 is correctly installed. In Preferences I have the Terminal TAB no problem but when I copy and paste a few lines of codes to compile, there is no pasting to terminal. Any idea why?
BTW, it's best to start a new thread for this question, more people may see it.
From the screenshot you sent me it looks like the terminal is not starting up properly, just the caret symbol in the top left. It may be a problem with your libvte version. Just to check, have you edited any Terminal-related preferences?
Nick
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Marco Bianchi <marcolondonuk@...> writes:
Hello Nick, thank you for your message. Yes I have only changed the input in Shell as
below, to run R.
I agree it looks like a bug in libvte, but no idea how to deal with that.
I will post new post to geany userlist.
marco
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Nick Treleaven <nick.treleaven-
FhtRXb7CoQBt1OO0OYaSVA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
On 25/07/2013 10:53, Marco Bianchi wrote: Today (July 2013) I made a brand new installation on a brand new hard
disk
and this time around I have a problem unexpectedly even when libvte9 is correctly installed. In Preferences I have the Terminal TAB no problem
but
when I copy and paste a few lines of codes to compile, there is no
pasting
to terminal. Any idea why?
BTW, it's best to start a new thread for this question, more people may
see it.
From the screenshot you sent me it looks like the terminal is not
starting up properly, just the caret symbol in the top left. It may be a problem with your libvte version. Just to check, have you edited any Terminal-related preferences?
Nick
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Hello Pals,
Running sudo apt-get install libvte-dev will add TREMINAL TAB IN GEANY! IT WORKS SMOOTH.
REGARDS,
ABHISHEK SINGH
