Hi folks,
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
The newsletter has been done in team work between Russell Dickenson, Enrico and myself based on a discussion earlier this year at this list. (Thanks for this guys!)
The 1st issue has been done with LaTeX, but this maybe change in future.
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
http://git.geany.org/newsletter/
Please feel free to clone this and send patches :)
But patches is a good topic: We do need your input! We are trying to keep on monitoring the mailing lists and everything else what is happening inside Geany environment, but we cannot ensure we get the attention of every interesting point. So if you have something might fit, don't hesitate to write an email. For the beginning, just ping me. Maybe we will set up a new mailing list later, but this is nothing I spent much thoughts about.
Cheers, Frank
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
Is there any special things to be done to generate the Newsletter? Or is it enough to generate it via the "usual" LaTeX tools like pdflatex and so on? Maybe it would be useful to add something like a README file in the Git repository, since potential contributors surely want to know how to preview their changes. :)
Regards, Dominic
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:01:10 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
Is there any special things to be done to generate the Newsletter? Or is it enough to generate it via the "usual" LaTeX tools like pdflatex and so on? Maybe it would be useful to add something like a README file in the Git repository, since potential contributors surely want to know how to preview their changes.
Issue one has been generated via calling pdflatex newsletter_1.tex for the pdf. The HTML Version has been created with htlatex newsletter_1.tex xhtml -cvalidate -interaction=batchmode
For issue 2+ there will be some changes and at this point there will be also a README ;)
Cheers, Frank
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:30:09 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:01:10 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
Is there any special things to be done to generate the Newsletter? Or is it enough to generate it via the "usual" LaTeX tools like pdflatex and so on? Maybe it would be useful to add something like a README file in the Git repository, since potential contributors surely want to know how to preview their changes.
Issue one has been generated via calling pdflatex newsletter_1.tex for the pdf. The HTML Version has been created with htlatex newsletter_1.tex xhtml -cvalidate -interaction=batchmode
For issue 2+ there will be some changes and at this point there will be also a README ;)
I still strongly recommend to use another source format for the newsletter. LaTeX might be great but for that kind of document I think some easy plain text markup language fits better (as we all already discussed). I'd suggest ReST as it's very easy and we use it already in Geany.
Regards, Enrico
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:41:15 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:30:09 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:01:10 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
Is there any special things to be done to generate the Newsletter? Or is it enough to generate it via the "usual" LaTeX tools like pdflatex and so on? Maybe it would be useful to add something like a README file in the Git repository, since potential contributors surely want to know how to preview their changes.
Issue one has been generated via calling pdflatex newsletter_1.tex for the pdf. The HTML Version has been created with htlatex newsletter_1.tex xhtml -cvalidate -interaction=batchmode
For issue 2+ there will be some changes and at this point there will be also a README ;)
I still strongly recommend to use another source format for the newsletter. LaTeX might be great but for that kind of document I think some easy plain text markup language fits better (as we all already discussed). I'd suggest ReST as it's very easy and we use it already in Geany.
As you know my declination of doing this change is decreasing with increasing number of requests..... ;)
Cheers, Frank
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:43:27 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:41:15 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 09:30:09 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 02:01:10 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 01:24 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
Is there any special things to be done to generate the Newsletter? Or is it enough to generate it via the "usual" LaTeX tools like pdflatex and so on? Maybe it would be useful to add something like a README file in the Git repository, since potential contributors surely want to know how to preview their changes.
Issue one has been generated via calling pdflatex newsletter_1.tex for the pdf. The HTML Version has been created with htlatex newsletter_1.tex xhtml -cvalidate -interaction=batchmode
For issue 2+ there will be some changes and at this point there will be also a README ;)
I still strongly recommend to use another source format for the newsletter. LaTeX might be great but for that kind of document I think some easy plain text markup language fits better (as we all already discussed). I'd suggest ReST as it's very easy and we use it already in Geany.
As you know my declination of doing this change is decreasing with increasing number of requests..... ;)
Still I will keep trying...:D.
Anyway, a few more comments I forgot in my previous mail:
- I think the newsletter mail should be cross-posted to the geany-devel and geany-i18n list as well
- it should be announced as news on www.geany.org with a reference to newsletter.geany.org
- on newsletter.geany.org there should be some content :D
- Thanks for your efforts on this!
Regards, Enrico
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:01:43 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
- I think the newsletter mail should be cross-posted to the
geany-devel and geany-i18n list as well
Done.
- it should be announced as news on www.geany.org with a reference to
newsletter.geany.org
- on newsletter.geany.org there should be some content :D
Will do an short announcement this afternoon CET. About the content of newsletter.geany.org there is indead some need for some action.
- Thanks for your efforts on this!
You are welcome ;)
Cheers, Frank
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:02:42 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:01:43 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
- I think the newsletter mail should be cross-posted to the
geany-devel and geany-i18n list as well
Done.
- it should be announced as news on www.geany.org with a reference to
newsletter.geany.org
- on newsletter.geany.org there should be some content :D
Will do an short announcement this afternoon CET. About the content of newsletter.geany.org there is indead some need for some action.
Maybe it could be as easy to put each newsletter issue into a sub directory with the HTML version as index.html. Directly on newsletter.geany.org there is a simple PHP script which lists all available newsletter issues with links to the HTML, plain text and PDF versions.
Dominic, would you like to write such a little indexer script?
Regards, Enrico
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 12:35 +0100 schrieb Enrico Tröger:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:02:42 +0100, Frank wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:01:43 +0100 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de wrote:
- I think the newsletter mail should be cross-posted to the
geany-devel and geany-i18n list as well
Done.
- it should be announced as news on www.geany.org with a reference to
newsletter.geany.org
- on newsletter.geany.org there should be some content :D
Will do an short announcement this afternoon CET. About the content of newsletter.geany.org there is indead some need for some action.
Maybe it could be as easy to put each newsletter issue into a sub directory with the HTML version as index.html. Directly on newsletter.geany.org there is a simple PHP script which lists all available newsletter issues with links to the HTML, plain text and PDF versions.
Dominic, would you like to write such a little indexer script?
Check this out:
It's a new branch 'website' in the repository at http://git.geany.org/newsletter, so one may clones this and writes patches. :)
Regards, Dominic
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:17:57 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
It's a new branch 'website' in the repository at http://git.geany.org/newsletter, so one may clones this and writes patches. :)
This is nothing a branch is a good idea on git IMHO :(
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 15:31 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:17:57 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
It's a new branch 'website' in the repository at http://git.geany.org/newsletter, so one may clones this and writes patches. :)
This is nothing a branch is a good idea on git IMHO :(
Hum? *confused*
It is a branch, so what's the problem with it?
confused Regards, Dominic
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:02:11 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2011, 15:31 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:17:57 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
It's a new branch 'website' in the repository at http://git.geany.org/newsletter, so one may clones this and writes patches. :)
This is nothing a branch is a good idea on git IMHO :(
Hum? *confused*
It is a branch, so what's the problem with it?
Just wanted to say I think it should be a branch but a folder on master. A branch is IMHO for different development levels/flavours of the same thing. In this case here we are mixing up work for newsletter with presentation of content on web page within the same hierarchical level.
But well.... as long as it works. Doesn't matter.
Cheers, Frank
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:17:57 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Dominic, would you like to write such a little indexer script?
Check this out:
Looks nice so far ;) Thanks very much!
Cheers, Frank
On 13.03.2011 01:24, Frank Lanitz wrote:
[snip]
The 'development' is done transparent inside a public git repository at
http://git.geany.org/newsletter/
Please feel free to clone this and send patches :)
Do you plan to migrate the geany source to git also?
Best regards Andreas
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:46:16 +0100 Andreas Tscharner andy@vis.ethz.ch wrote:
Do you plan to migrate the geany source to git also?
Short answer: No ;)
There has been a lot of discussion on geany-devel mailing list with lots of pro and contra you might like to check.
Cheers, Frank
Le 13/03/2011 01:24, Frank Lanitz a écrit :
Hi folks,
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
Is there any plan to set up a specific mailing list for those who would only receive this newsletter? (I almost forward a question from CGI743 on IRC)
The newsletter has been done in team work between Russell Dickenson, Enrico and myself based on a discussion earlier this year at this list. (Thanks for this guys!)
Great job guys, thank you all!
Cheers, Colomban
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:25:14 +0100 Colomban Wendling lists.ban@herbesfolles.org wrote:
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
Is there any plan to set up a specific mailing list for those who would only receive this newsletter? (I almost forward a question from CGI743 on IRC)
Well, no plans by now but maybe would make sense instead of spamming geany-*-mailing lists ;) On the other hand I don't want to be the cause to set up another mailing list. It would be number #8.
Cheers, Frank
Cheers, Frank
Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:06 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:25:14 +0100 Colomban Wendling lists.ban@herbesfolles.org wrote:
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
Is there any plan to set up a specific mailing list for those who would only receive this newsletter? (I almost forward a question from CGI743 on IRC)
Well, no plans by now but maybe would make sense instead of spamming geany-*-mailing lists ;) On the other hand I don't want to be the cause to set up another mailing list. It would be number #8.
Keep it small, simple and lightweight? At present I don't see a reason to set up a additional mailing list dedicated to the newsletter stuff. :)
But well, this might change in future. Let's see how this evolves? :)
Regards, Dominic
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:55:58 +0100 Dominic Hopf dmaphy@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:06 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:25:14 +0100 Colomban Wendling lists.ban@herbesfolles.org wrote:
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
Is there any plan to set up a specific mailing list for those who would only receive this newsletter? (I almost forward a question from CGI743 on IRC)
Well, no plans by now but maybe would make sense instead of spamming geany-*-mailing lists ;) On the other hand I don't want to be the cause to set up another mailing list. It would be number #8.
Keep it small, simple and lightweight? At present I don't see a reason to set up a additional mailing list dedicated to the newsletter stuff. :)
But well, this might change in future. Let's see how this evolves? :)
I agree for the moment.
Cheers, Frank
Le 15/03/2011 23:55, Dominic Hopf a écrit :
Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 21:06 +0100 schrieb Frank Lanitz:
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:25:14 +0100 Colomban Wendling lists.ban@herbesfolles.org wrote:
Just a few, barely sorted notes about the newsletter I've sent a couple of minutes ago:
The intention of the newsletter is to give an overview about the most important things inside Geany universe including Plugins. Future goal is to create it on a monthly or 2-monthly period.
Is there any plan to set up a specific mailing list for those who would only receive this newsletter? (I almost forward a question from CGI743 on IRC)
Well, no plans by now but maybe would make sense instead of spamming geany-*-mailing lists ;) On the other hand I don't want to be the cause to set up another mailing list. It would be number #8.
Keep it small, simple and lightweight? At present I don't see a reason to set up a additional mailing list dedicated to the newsletter stuff. :)
I personally could easily understand somebody would like to receive the newsletter only, and not all the discussion that might happen on geany or geany-devel. But you choose, I've no stronger argument nor personal need anyway ^^
Cheers, Colomban