Hi all,
I not see information about webhelper plugin compatibility on the geany-plugin website. There is a part about requirements : This plugin requires GTK+ (>= 2.16), GLib (>= 2.16), GIO (>= 2.18), GdkPixbuf (>= 2.0), WebKitGTK (>= 1.1.18), and obviously Geany (>= 0.20) but i dont' know how i have to do or if it's possible on windows.
So please where can i find information for using this plugin in windows XP environement ?
Another question will be is it possible to have two times the plugin,like two tab ? (two can be>2 but 2 is good)
Thanks
-- sorry for ~engli$h~ (french hard user), on gnu/linux at home and windows at work --
Le 20/10/2011 22:18, Jérôme Andanson a écrit :
Hi all,
Hi Jérôme,
I not see information about webhelper plugin compatibility on the geany-plugin website. There is a part about requirements : This plugin requires GTK+ (>= 2.16), GLib (>= 2.16), GIO (>= 2.18), GdkPixbuf (>= 2.0), WebKitGTK (>= 1.1.18), and obviously Geany (>= 0.20) but i dont' know how i have to do or if it's possible on windows.
So please where can i find information for using this plugin in windows XP environement ?
I never tried to build it on Windows, but in theory it should work just fine as long as WebKitGTK is ported to window (and it is, AFAIK).
I can't really tell you how to setup the development environment on Windows to build this because I'm far from being comfortable on Windows building, and because I don't really have any Windows machine at hand, but I guess that when the GTK environment is set up (not *that* hard, I did it hum... twice) it's fairly easy to get WebKitGTK too, and then build the plugin using Waf (Autotools under Windows aren't that usable).
Maybe Enrico or Matthew could help on setting up Windows environment?
Another question will be is it possible to have two times the plugin,like two tab ? (two can be>2 but 2 is good)
It's not possible ATM, but maybe it could be implemented -- though I'm not quite sure what's the point: WebHelper is not meant to be a "real" browser.
Regards, Colomban
Thanks for your answer Colomban.
Le 20/10/2011 23:17, Colomban Wendling a écrit :
I not see information about webhelper plugin compatibility on the geany-plugin website. There is a part about requirements : This plugin requires GTK+ (>= 2.16), GLib (>= 2.16), GIO (>= 2.18), GdkPixbuf (>= 2.0), WebKitGTK (>= 1.1.18), and obviously Geany (>= 0.20) but i dont' know how i have to do or if it's possible on windows.
So please where can i find information for using this plugin in windows XP environement ?
I never tried to build it on Windows, but in theory it should work just fine as long as WebKitGTK is ported to window (and it is, AFAIK).
I can't really tell you how to setup the development environment on Windows to build this because I'm far from being comfortable on Windows building, and because I don't really have any Windows machine at hand, but I guess that when the GTK environment is set up (not *that* hard, I did it hum... twice) it's fairly easy to get WebKitGTK too, and then build the plugin using Waf (Autotools under Windows aren't that usable).
Maybe Enrico or Matthew could help on setting up Windows environment?
I haven't skills in build on windows (on linux too just can follow an how to), i'm just a webdeveloper but i'm ok for try, i just have a look on waf, but for the moment i prefer wait for more information on.
For my own information, who build the version of geany and geany-plugins on windows ?
Another question will be is it possible to have two times the plugin,like two tab ? (two can be>2 but 2 is good)
It's not possible ATM, but maybe it could be implemented -- though I'm not quite sure what's the point: WebHelper is not meant to be a "real" browser.
I know my request is a little bit strange. the case is developing a website with a manager part and a public part. for switch from the first to the second, two view will be more pratical. the first 'bad' thing come in my head was just compile the plugin with a different name so i can have twice.
But i understand it is not the goal for geany to have a real browser into.
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:57:11 +0200, Jérôme wrote:
Thanks for your answer Colomban.
Le 20/10/2011 23:17, Colomban Wendling a écrit :
I not see information about webhelper plugin compatibility on the geany-plugin website. There is a part about requirements : This plugin requires GTK+ (>= 2.16), GLib (>= 2.16), GIO (>= 2.18), GdkPixbuf (>= 2.0), WebKitGTK (>= 1.1.18), and obviously Geany (>= 0.20) but i dont' know how i have to do or if it's possible on windows.
So please where can i find information for using this plugin in windows XP environement ?
I never tried to build it on Windows, but in theory it should work just fine as long as WebKitGTK is ported to window (and it is, AFAIK).
I can't really tell you how to setup the development environment on Windows to build this because I'm far from being comfortable on Windows building, and because I don't really have any Windows machine at hand, but I guess that when the GTK environment is set up (not *that* hard, I did it hum... twice) it's fairly easy to get WebKitGTK too, and then build the plugin using Waf (Autotools under Windows aren't that usable).
Maybe Enrico or Matthew could help on setting up Windows environment?
I haven't skills in build on windows (on linux too just can follow an how to), i'm just a webdeveloper but i'm ok for try, i just have a look on waf, but for the moment i prefer wait for more information on.
Well, I had a look yesterday but didn't find any prebuilt binaries for Windows of WebkitGTK. If we find some, it should be easy, or at least possible, to build the plugin. But the very first step is to get a WebkitGTK build for Windows. Building the whole WebkitGTK stuff is probably a huge and tedious task. I never ever will do this.
About setting up a build environment on Windows, basic steps, though maybe outdated, can be found on the Geany website. I intend to write an up2date howto on setting up a build environment on Windows which is suitable for building Geany and the plugins but I'm afraid this still will take some time as it's not one of those tasks I'm excited to do...: (. I just can ask for your patience.
For my own information, who build the version of geany and geany-plugins on windows ?
Me :).
Regards, Enrico
Jérôme Andanson wrote:
Another question will be is it possible to have two times the plugin,like two tab ? (two can be>2 but 2 is good)
[...] I know my request is a little bit strange. the case is developing a website with a manager part and a public part. for switch from the first to the second, two view will be more pratical. the first 'bad' thing come in my head was just compile the plugin with a different name so i can have twice.
I think you would find it best to work in either Firefox with the Firebug[1] and Web Developer[2] extensions, or Google Chrome with its developer tools. There you could easily have two tabs open and viewing what actually goes to the browser, with good developer inspection tools. If you have two screens, all the better because you can have the whole page in view on one screen whilst inspecting elements, CSS and scripts on the other screen.
Opera has reasonable developer tools too, called Dragonfly[3], but I've always found it a little clunky compared to Firebug... but it does let you remote-debug Opera Mobile :)
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/firebug/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/web-developer/ [3] http://www.opera.com/dragonfly/