Hey Lars, and other translators,
I'm trying to translate the Workbench plugin in French, and beside the trickiness of translating (or not) "Workbench" itself, I'm highly puzzled by the use of both "Directory" vs. "Folder" in very similar manner yet with apparently distinct meanings.
For example, there is "Open all files in directory", but also "Open all files in folder". I'm not a native English speaker, but I do find this very obscure: for what I know, "folder" and "directory" are mostly interchangeable terms in the common computer world, and it's certainly not clear what is the difference between those for me in that context.
So I think there should be a better wording in English so that the user could understand what each of those do, and how they are different. Also, I'm afraid the use of those will be inconsistent with other part of the software (Geany, GTK, and likely other plugins), not helping being clear. And for now I cannot translate those properly, because I still have no idea what the difference is, and although in French I could translate "directory" to "répertoire" and "folder" to "dossier", it would have the exact same problem here: they are basically equivalent in this context.
So Lars, could you explain the difference between those? And to the other translators, what did you do with this?
Regards, Colomban
Hi Colomban,
yeah, that names are ambiguous.
Items labeled "Directory" are the root or base directories or external directories that the user can add. Then these directories are scanned for sub-directories and files which are displayed in the workbench project's tree view. So, the base/root/main directory which was specified by the user is called "Directory". Sub-directories that were found by scanning them are called "Folder".
Maybe we could name them "External Directory" and "Directory" instead of "Directory" and "Folder". But I am open to any suggestions.
One remark: the workbench plugin imports the "Base path" from geany's project properties. This path is always labeled "Base dir".
Best Regards, Lars
On 18.11.2017 04:56, Colomban Wendling wrote:
Hey Lars, and other translators,
I'm trying to translate the Workbench plugin in French, and beside the trickiness of translating (or not) "Workbench" itself, I'm highly puzzled by the use of both "Directory" vs. "Folder" in very similar manner yet with apparently distinct meanings.
For example, there is "Open all files in directory", but also "Open all files in folder". I'm not a native English speaker, but I do find this very obscure: for what I know, "folder" and "directory" are mostly interchangeable terms in the common computer world, and it's certainly not clear what is the difference between those for me in that context.
So I think there should be a better wording in English so that the user could understand what each of those do, and how they are different. Also, I'm afraid the use of those will be inconsistent with other part of the software (Geany, GTK, and likely other plugins), not helping being clear. And for now I cannot translate those properly, because I still have no idea what the difference is, and although in French I could translate "directory" to "répertoire" and "folder" to "dossier", it would have the exact same problem here: they are basically equivalent in this context.
So Lars, could you explain the difference between those? And to the other translators, what did you do with this?
Regards, Colomban
On 18 November 2017 at 18:20, Lars Paulsen lars_paulsen@web.de wrote:
Hi Colomban,
yeah, that names are ambiguous.
Items labeled "Directory" are the root or base directories or external directories that the user can add. Then these directories are scanned for sub-directories and files which are displayed in the workbench project's tree view. So, the base/root/main directory which was specified by the user is called "Directory". Sub-directories that were found by scanning them are called "Folder".
Given what you just described above, "specified directories" "scanned sub-directories" ?
Cheers Lex
Maybe we could name them "External Directory" and "Directory" instead of "Directory" and "Folder". But I am open to any suggestions.
One remark: the workbench plugin imports the "Base path" from geany's project properties. This path is always labeled "Base dir".
Best Regards, Lars
On 18.11.2017 04:56, Colomban Wendling wrote:
Hey Lars, and other translators,
I'm trying to translate the Workbench plugin in French, and beside the trickiness of translating (or not) "Workbench" itself, I'm highly puzzled by the use of both "Directory" vs. "Folder" in very similar manner yet with apparently distinct meanings.
For example, there is "Open all files in directory", but also "Open all files in folder". I'm not a native English speaker, but I do find this very obscure: for what I know, "folder" and "directory" are mostly interchangeable terms in the common computer world, and it's certainly not clear what is the difference between those for me in that context.
So I think there should be a better wording in English so that the user could understand what each of those do, and how they are different. Also, I'm afraid the use of those will be inconsistent with other part of the software (Geany, GTK, and likely other plugins), not helping being clear. And for now I cannot translate those properly, because I still have no idea what the difference is, and although in French I could translate "directory" to "répertoire" and "folder" to "dossier", it would have the exact same problem here: they are basically equivalent in this context.
So Lars, could you explain the difference between those? And to the other translators, what did you do with this?
Regards, Colomban
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Hi Lex,
I would prefer something shorter.
Using your example on "Open all files in directory" would become "Open all files in specified directory" and "Open all files in scanned sub-directories".
This texts would be part of a context menu and I don't like the texts in the context menu being that long.
What do you think about "directory" and "sub-directory"?
Greetings, Lars
On 18.11.2017 10:25, Lex Trotman wrote:
On 18 November 2017 at 18:20, Lars Paulsen lars_paulsen@web.de wrote:
Hi Colomban,
yeah, that names are ambiguous.
Items labeled "Directory" are the root or base directories or external directories that the user can add. Then these directories are scanned for sub-directories and files which are displayed in the workbench project's tree view. So, the base/root/main directory which was specified by the user is called "Directory". Sub-directories that were found by scanning them are called "Folder".
Given what you just described above, "specified directories" "scanned sub-directories" ?
Cheers Lex