Hi All,
Since there's some discussion about infobar behaviour, I thought I'd mention a couple things I've noticed using it in my day-to-day workflow.
When you delete a file from disk, and then assuming the infobar kicked in (see below), it pops up the infobar as expected. The problem is that there's no quick way to say "Ya, ya, I deleted that on purpose, just close the file". IMO, there should be a "Close" button on the infobar that allows you to bypass the redundant dialog that pops up when trying to close a document that you've been notified about, for example:
----------------------------------------------------------------- File "foo.txt" was not found on disk [Resave][Dismiss][Close] <Some different message here> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Clicking the proposed [Close] button would have the same effect as what currently requires two steps; clicking the tab close button or Close menu item and then clicking the "Don't Save" button in the dialog that pops up.
Does that sound reasonable?
The other thing I wondered is, should we not do a "disk check" on a file that hasn't been switched to when it's being closed? I mean we do the check and show the infobar on tab-switch (due to lacking proper/usable inotify support), but if the user doesn't actually switch to the tab, then we just close the file without any warning that the buffer in that document has no disk file anymore and closing it will lose those contents forever.
Thoughts?
Cheers, Matthew Brush
On 23 October 2014 11:53, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
Hi All,
Since there's some discussion about infobar behaviour, I thought I'd mention a couple things I've noticed using it in my day-to-day workflow.
When you delete a file from disk, and then assuming the infobar kicked in (see below), it pops up the infobar as expected. The problem is that there's no quick way to say "Ya, ya, I deleted that on purpose, just close the file". IMO, there should be a "Close" button on the infobar that allows you to bypass the redundant dialog that pops up when trying to close a document that you've been notified about, for example:
File "foo.txt" was not found on disk [Resave][Dismiss][Close]
<Some different message here> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Clicking the proposed [Close] button would have the same effect as what currently requires two steps; clicking the tab close button or Close menu item and then clicking the "Don't Save" button in the dialog that pops up.
Does that sound reasonable?
Yes, would just ask for some space between dismiss and close for those with bad aim (like me :) BTW which is default (if any)?
The other thing I wondered is, should we not do a "disk check" on a file that hasn't been switched to when it's being closed? I mean we do the check and show the infobar on tab-switch (due to lacking proper/usable inotify support), but if the user doesn't actually switch to the tab, then we just close the file without any warning that the buffer in that document has no disk file anymore and closing it will lose those contents forever.
Sounds like a sensible safe default behaviour, but with a various pref to turn it off for those whose workflow makes it *really* annoying.
Cheers Lex
Thoughts?
Cheers, Matthew Brush _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
On 14-10-22 06:53 PM, Lex Trotman wrote:
On 23 October 2014 11:53, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
Hi All,
Since there's some discussion about infobar behaviour, I thought I'd mention a couple things I've noticed using it in my day-to-day workflow.
When you delete a file from disk, and then assuming the infobar kicked in (see below), it pops up the infobar as expected. The problem is that there's no quick way to say "Ya, ya, I deleted that on purpose, just close the file". IMO, there should be a "Close" button on the infobar that allows you to bypass the redundant dialog that pops up when trying to close a document that you've been notified about, for example:
File "foo.txt" was not found on disk [Resave][Dismiss][Close]
<Some different message here> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Clicking the proposed [Close] button would have the same effect as what currently requires two steps; clicking the tab close button or Close menu item and then clicking the "Don't Save" button in the dialog that pops up.
Does that sound reasonable?
Yes, would just ask for some space between dismiss and close for those with bad aim (like me :) BTW which is default (if any)?
The other thing I wondered is, should we not do a "disk check" on a file that hasn't been switched to when it's being closed? I mean we do the check and show the infobar on tab-switch (due to lacking proper/usable inotify support), but if the user doesn't actually switch to the tab, then we just close the file without any warning that the buffer in that document has no disk file anymore and closing it will lose those contents forever.
Sounds like a sensible safe default behaviour, but with a various pref to turn it off for those whose workflow makes it *really* annoying.
And/or a way to dismiss many together for bulk operations like "Close All" and "Close Others" (and obviously when exiting). Sometimes you see those dialogs like:
+--------------------------------------------+ |----- Unsaved Changes! -----------------X-| +--------------------------------------------+ | The following files are not saved: | | ========================================== | | [ ] Resignation_Letter.txt | | [ ] Wedding_Vows_WIP.md | | [ ] Baby_Pictures.xpm | | [ ] ... | | ========================================== | | Do you want to save them? | | ------------------------------------------ | | [ No, Just Exit] [ Yes Please ] [ Cancel ] | +--------------------------------------------+
We could do something like that.
Cheers, Matthew Brush
On 23 October 2014 13:11, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
On 14-10-22 06:53 PM, Lex Trotman wrote:
On 23 October 2014 11:53, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
Hi All,
Since there's some discussion about infobar behaviour, I thought I'd mention a couple things I've noticed using it in my day-to-day workflow.
When you delete a file from disk, and then assuming the infobar kicked in (see below), it pops up the infobar as expected. The problem is that there's no quick way to say "Ya, ya, I deleted that on purpose, just close the file". IMO, there should be a "Close" button on the infobar that allows you to bypass the redundant dialog that pops up when trying to close a document that you've been notified about, for example:
File "foo.txt" was not found on disk [Resave][Dismiss][Close]
<Some different message here> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Clicking the proposed [Close] button would have the same effect as what currently requires two steps; clicking the tab close button or Close menu item and then clicking the "Don't Save" button in the dialog that pops up.
Does that sound reasonable?
Yes, would just ask for some space between dismiss and close for those with bad aim (like me :) BTW which is default (if any)?
The other thing I wondered is, should we not do a "disk check" on a file that hasn't been switched to when it's being closed? I mean we do the check and show the infobar on tab-switch (due to lacking proper/usable inotify support), but if the user doesn't actually switch to the tab, then we just close the file without any warning that the buffer in that document has no disk file anymore and closing it will lose those contents forever.
Sounds like a sensible safe default behaviour, but with a various pref to turn it off for those whose workflow makes it *really* annoying.
And/or a way to dismiss many together for bulk operations like "Close All" and "Close Others" (and obviously when exiting). Sometimes you see those dialogs like:
+--------------------------------------------+ |----- Unsaved Changes! -----------------X-| +--------------------------------------------+ | The following files are not saved: | | ========================================== | | [ ] Resignation_Letter.txt | | [ ] Wedding_Vows_WIP.md | | [ ] Baby_Pictures.xpm | | [ ] ... | | ========================================== | | Do you want to save them? | | ------------------------------------------ | | [ No, Just Exit] [ Yes Please ] [ Cancel ] | +--------------------------------------------+We could do something like that.
Well one annoying dialog is an improvement on many :)
Cheers Lex
Cheers, Matthew Brush _______________________________________________ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
Am 23.10.2014 um 04:11 schrieb Matthew Brush:
On 14-10-22 06:53 PM, Lex Trotman wrote:
On 23 October 2014 11:53, Matthew Brush mbrush@codebrainz.ca wrote:
Hi All,
Since there's some discussion about infobar behaviour, I thought I'd mention a couple things I've noticed using it in my day-to-day workflow.
When you delete a file from disk, and then assuming the infobar kicked in (see below), it pops up the infobar as expected. The problem is that there's no quick way to say "Ya, ya, I deleted that on purpose, just close the file". IMO, there should be a "Close" button on the infobar that allows you to bypass the redundant dialog that pops up when trying to close a document that you've been notified about, for example:
File "foo.txt" was not found on disk [Resave][Dismiss][Close]
<Some different message here> -----------------------------------------------------------------
Clicking the proposed [Close] button would have the same effect as what currently requires two steps; clicking the tab close button or Close menu item and then clicking the "Don't Save" button in the dialog that pops up.
Does that sound reasonable?
Yes, would just ask for some space between dismiss and close for those with bad aim (like me :) BTW which is default (if any)?
The other thing I wondered is, should we not do a "disk check" on a file that hasn't been switched to when it's being closed? I mean we do the check and show the infobar on tab-switch (due to lacking proper/usable inotify support), but if the user doesn't actually switch to the tab, then we just close the file without any warning that the buffer in that document has no disk file anymore and closing it will lose those contents forever.
Sounds like a sensible safe default behaviour, but with a various pref to turn it off for those whose workflow makes it *really* annoying.
And/or a way to dismiss many together for bulk operations like "Close All" and "Close Others" (and obviously when exiting). Sometimes you see those dialogs like:
+--------------------------------------------+ |----- Unsaved Changes! -----------------X-| +--------------------------------------------+ | The following files are not saved: | | ========================================== | | [ ] Resignation_Letter.txt | | [ ] Wedding_Vows_WIP.md | | [ ] Baby_Pictures.xpm | | [ ] ... | | ========================================== | | Do you want to save them? | | ------------------------------------------ | | [ No, Just Exit] [ Yes Please ] [ Cancel ] | +--------------------------------------------+We could do something like that.
Nice idea. Perhaps add a check box "[x] Remember this decision", and store that in a pref.
Best regards