On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:38:22 +1000, Lex wrote:
2009/8/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:51:39 +1000, Lex wrote:
2009/8/16 Enrico Tröger enrico.troeger@uvena.de:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:59:27 +1000, Lex wrote:
but I think the following should make it into a menu (actually a submenu, since I don't think they are commonly used enough to go in a top level menu) and I have suggested which new submenu to put them in.
Ctrl-K delete current line popup-edit Ctrl-T transpose current line popup-edit Ctrl-Shift-X cut line popup-edit Ctrl-Shift-C copy line popup-edit Alt-Shift-W select word edit-select and popup-select Alt-Shift-P select para edit-select and popup-select Alt-Shift-L select line edit-select and popup-select insert alt whitspace popup-edit indent space popup-indent undent space popup-indent prev indent popup-indent Ctrl-B matching brace edit-goto popup-goto Ctrl-M toggle marker edit-goto popup-goto Ctrl-. next marker " " Ctrl-, prev marker " "
Cool, thanks for this list.
Note that this is only for 0.17, I'm not sure how many more 0.18 will add.
However, I fail to make any sense of the third column. Could you give some hint about what exactly "popup-edit", "popup-select" and the others mean? Thanks.
My apologies, I was trying to suggest adding a new submenu of either
No need to apologise. Maybe I just didn't try hard enough, anyway, now it's pretty clear (and obvious :).
popup-edit means new edit submenu of right click popup popup-indent means new indent submenu of right click popup popup-goto means a new goto submenu of right click popup edit-select means a new select submenu of the main edit menu edit-goto means a new goto submenu of the main edit menu
Where more than one is listed on the same line I am suggesting putting the item in both.
Ok. But to be honest I really don't want to add *anything* more to the right click popup menu. It's already very big. When considering the Gnome HIG, it's way too big. But I think in our case that's ok as long as we don't fill the menu even more.
For the Edit menu in the file menu, I think we could add a new submenu like "More Actions" or something which then lists the actions you mentioned maybe in more sub menus sorted by categories (as you did above). This way we would not bloat the existing menus really and still gain the benefit of having menu items for most keybindings.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for it, my only worries are not to bloat the menus too much.
Totally agree with all you said.
Maybe submenus of the popup for the inserts and the finds could help shrink it.
Uhhh, dangerous topic :). We already had the find items in a submenu but I voted against it as at least I personally use them a lot from the popup menu and hiding them in a submenu reduces usuability. This might be a pretty personal rationale but I really would like to keep these items as they are :). Though I would agree about the insert items. I also thought about moving them into a plugin (at least 'insert date' and 'insert include...') especially because 'insert include' is very specific to C/C++ and not of any use for other filetypes. But I still didn't come around to actually do it.
Maybe we could group the 'insert date', 'insert include...' items into a new submenu, so we would save one toplevel menu item and then we could also put various more menu items into this new submenu for keybindings (i.e. those of your list). Nick?
To be honest I don't use the popup much, I use keybindings mostly so I am probably not best qualified to say whats common use and whats not & can go to a submenu.
Who is qualified to say this at all? Every user has different use cases of the GUI, the keybindings and everything else. It's always hard to make such decisions.
Regards, Enrico