[Geany] [Geany-devel] Incompatible UI change, removal of actions from ctrl-click

Dimitar Zhekov dimitar.zhekov at xxxxx
Tue May 29 18:38:26 UTC 2012


On Tue, 29 May 2012 12:48:04 +1000
Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> I also think that if we want to keep a mouse binding for "go to tag", we
> >> could choose something less common -- Ctrl+Alt, Super, whatever uncommon
> >> modifier.  Do we want to keep one?
> >
> > Maybe Alt+Click under *nix, and either Alt+ or Ctrl+ Click under
> > Windows, depending on which modifier does rectangle selection. In my WM
> > Alt+Click triggers move window, but after a short timeout.
> 
> As you say alt+click is used by window managers so thats not
> appropriate (even if it has a timeout, hesitation will cause different
> behavior).
> 
> IMHO no Geany function is *so* important that it should be exclusively
> bound to mouse clicks, potentially blocking something else, so I don't
> think we should keep such a binding.

Well, yes. BTW, I checked SciTE on Win~1: Alt+Click does rectangular
selection, and Ctrl+Click - guess what? - multi-selection. And if you
click only, not drag, that's "multi-cursors".

> >> Finally, although it's probably obvious, the multi-select feature should
> >> have a keybinding.
> >
> > Cursor movement clears at least the primary selection, and multicursors
> > clears all selections on arrow. Since the keyboard navigation is
> > problematic, I'm not sure how useful a keybinding will be.
> 
> The HIG defines ctrl-<cursor key> to move the cursor without modifying
> the selection, but unfortunately Scintilla binds these to move by word
> :(  If that was fixed it would work ok.

Isn't there a special case for text editing? Any editors I've seen use
Ctrl+Arrow (if available) for word movement, and if you invoke File ->
Open, type "tess test test" in the Location field, and try Ctrl+Arrow,
it clears the selection, if any, or does word left/right, if none.

> >> IMO Replace and Toggle Case must be updated to work properly.
> >
> >> Just document them to only work on single selection would be ok.
> >
> > Or block them for now if multiply selections exist?
> > SCI_GETSELECTIONS.
> 
> Maybe, but then how do you tell the user? dialog? etc IMHO it gets too
> much code for too little return.

Simply block them, as Cut/Copy/etc. are blocked if no selection... but
that's not worth, they should be fixed anyway.

> >> "Rectangular selections are handled as multiple selections although
> >> the original rectangular range is remembered [...]
> >>
> >> Doesn't say how its "remembered" though.
> >
> > IIRC, the main (stream) and rectangular selections are stored as caret
> > position + anchor position + caret virtual space + anchor virtual
> > space, similar to ScintillaDoc.html#SelectionAndInformation api-s.
> 
> Maybe I'm having a bad day, but how does that tell us it is
> rectangular vs multiple?

Oh, I replied literally. :)
SCI_GETSELECTIONMODE, SC_SEL_RECTANGLE or SC_SEL_THIN.

-- 
E-gards: Jimmy



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