[Geany-Users] question

o1bigtenor o1bigtenor at xxxxx
Mon Apr 24 02:16:50 UTC 2017

> On 24 April 2017 at 09:07, o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com> wrote:

(Possible issue - - - I changed a top posted response to a bottom posting - - -
sorry!  D)

>> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Matthew Brush <mbrush at codebrainz.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-23 11:31 AM, o1bigtenor wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 22 April 2017 at 12:33, o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> See http://home.gmane.org/ for that sites current situation.  May help
>>>>>>> if more people let them know they want Geany archives back, but may
>>>>>>> just annoy them if they are trying as hard as possible.
>>>>>> Oh boy - - - I have a complicated question and I had hoped to cruise the
>>>>>> archive to see if anyone had talked about any of the aspects before I
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> dropped it on the list.
>>>>>> Given that geany is in the process of being resuscitated what would you
>>>>>> suggest as a 'reasonable' course of action?
>>>>> To be clear, its only the Geany archive on Gmane thats being
>>>>> resuscitated, not Geany itself, don't want people to get the wrong
>>>>> idea :)
>>>>> I'd say if google can't find anything relevant, just ask.
>>>> I am using a program called ledger (sometimes known as ledger-cli) with
>>>> a text file for my 'recordkeeping' (what most people call accounting).
>>>> I have tried to use both vim (and gvim) and emacs and I think I could
>>>> possibly
>>>> learn the mountain of pre-wysiwyg codes to use them effectively. Both
>>>> suffer,
>>>> in my opinion, in that they don't have a search tool that works in
>>>> searching for
>>>> financial data. Yes they have search tools but their quick use has eluded
>>>> me
>>>> after quite a number of tries. I only have so much time in my life and
>>>> entering
>>>> financial information isn't what I want to spend 20% of my life on - -
>>>> - training
>>>> someone else to use the system I'm presently using WITH these cumbersome
>>>> and awkward search tools - - - I'm thinking what I would need is a serious
>>>> programmer type - - - and why would they want to work as a bookkeeper
>>>> for my business? (This preamble is the why.)
>>>> So now to the issue (the what). When I open a file (text file) in geany
>>>> the
>>>> physical layout is different than when I open it in vim/emacs (and
>>>> seemingly
>>>> most of the other text editors I've tried).
>>>> Eg
>>>> 2016.01.03 (2 tab spaces)     Company name
>>>> 1 tab space Expense: widgets: 5202.01.02.01    (a number of tab spaces) $
>>>> 1.00
>>>> 1 tab space Asset: account bank xyw: 1023.01.02.02       (")
>>>>         $-1.00
>>>> I am using a mono-spaced font  as I want the decimals to line up in the
>>>> right,
>>>> the beginning of both Expense and Asset (or whatever else that I'm using)
>>>> are
>>>> 1 tab space (when I can set things I've been trying to use either 4 or 5
>>>> spaces
>>>> for 1 tab) of indentation.
>>>> Sometimes there areas many as 6 or 7 Expense listings, there are sometimes
>>>> 2 or 3 Asset listings. What is goofy is that when the text is aligned
>>>> in Geany - - -
>>>> well its NOT in Leafpad, vim or emacs. Switching between Leafpad vim or
>>>> emacs does not seem to create this morphing.
>>>> I would like to stay with Geany because geany offers me the option of
>>>> creating
>>>> routines that I can call at the command line and then (hopefully) insert
>>>> what I
>>>> have called into the file (looking at using awk at the moment). Why
>>>> I'm doing this
>>>> is quite a bit more complicated than this delineated 'confusion' so for
>>>> now - -
>>>> please is there some way to get Geany to look exactly (in layout) like any
>>>> of
>>>> the other text editors?
>>>> Thanking any of those who care to tackle this in advance!!
>>> TL;DR
>>> If things are not aligned, make sure your font is actually mono spaced and
>>> that nothing is bold (it messes with character widths). Then adjust the tab
>>> width (Document->Set Indent Width) to match the other editors (usually 8
>>> chars wide rather than Geany's 4 chars).
>> Thanks for the response!
>> I checked - - - its a font called Monospace on my Debian 'stable' read 'Jessie'
>> vm. All editors have the tab width set to 4 spaces (after checking previously
>> - - - - I did try to find the problem!).
>> What makes this confusing is that the single tab width at the beginning of the
>> line is never different. The 2 tab spaces after the date is almost never an
>> issue - - - but the end of the line $ amounts - - - well it shifts - -
>> - sometimes
>> to the right and sometimes to the left. Doesn't seem to be any consistency
>> to it. That's why I'm totally puzzled as to how to fix.
>> Regards
>> Dee

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
> You need to provide a small actual file that shows the problem so
> people can reproduce it. We can't do anything from the description.
> With lines which show shifts both ways.  Using pastebin is fine
> (clearly with no actual data in it).

Well - - - the actual data is my financial data which isn't going anywhere.
The VM is quite disconnected from the web in fact.
> Note that monospace isn't usually a font, its an alias for some named
> font, so you need to find what that font is to tell if its REALLY
> monospace.

A description (in detail please) on how to determine what font it actually is
would be useful.
> Also version of Geany and operating system you are using would be useful.

The version of Geany was first 1.29.1 and was upgraded to 1.30.1 Thursday or
Friday. The operating system was mentioned in the last email.

If this inability to visualize the problem impedes a solution then I guess that
I will need to continue searching for a text editor that is easy to use by
a noob, needs a minimal amount of 'unusualness' and has a good search
system. Geany meets all of these but is insisting on not only reading
in other environments but even occasionally reading differently when a file is
closed and then re-opened.

I tried to give you as close as possible a visual of what was happening but as
I am using an 87 character line - - - - well 80 spaces can't display
87 so even if
I could put the information here - - - you want actual copy of the file and its
not anything I'm putting on the web. Why 87 characters - - - well I need room
for the various items of each line and there must be a certain amount of white
space between the 'description' part and the amount otherwise there are other
issues. (Found that particular need just recently.)

So you have everything that I 'can' give. Hopefully its enough.



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