[Geany-Users] change size, color of "show spaces"

Thu Nov 8 03:32:57 UTC 2018

Thank you.
I understood what the 3rd, 4th argument for white_space did.
I was asking about using bold, italics - using the "key=" syntax / 
method - in general and on white_space (the white_space part was answered).
I don't understand when (which files) or exactly how to get (for 
instance) "key=selection,bold" to work.

The manual indicates bold & italic can be used for any named_style 
defined in filetypes.common.  Yes?
And the bold, italic could be used in any filetypes.* (except for conf 
files - think I read somewhere).

But I can't get it to work.
For instance, in filetypes.css, the comment is,
"[styling]
# Edit these in the colorscheme .conf file instead"

But entering into a color scheme.conf file, anything like: 
selection=selection,italic or *any other* named_style from 
filetypes.common that I tried, then saving & reloading, nothing changes 
in any files I then view.

If I wanted selection (or pick another named style) to be italic or 
bold, in .css files, exactly how do you do that?

I'm assuming that for a named_style, colors can be specified, and on a 
separate line, specify it be italic or bold, if the style involves text?
Again, pick any named style.

* TRANSLUCENCY:
> "Translucency is really only useful and visible if you set background colour."
The manual says,
#translucency - Translucency for the CURRENT_LINE (1st argument) and the 
SELECTION (selected text - 2nd argument). Values between 0 and 255 are 
accepted.  Note for Windows 95, 98 and ME users: keep this value at 256 
to disable translucency otherwise Geany might crash. Only the first and 
second arguments are interpreted.  Example: translucency=256;256;false;false

Do you mean "set (default) background color for the color scheme, like:
> [named_styles]
>
> default=#fff;#000;true;true
Or set background colors for selection (selected text) and 
current_line?  Current_line only sets background.

So background color of both selection and current_line are set, as is 
the default background.  Translucency still has no effect for me.  It 
does say, "for the current line" (meaning color) and "the Selection".

Maybe I need to know which color (background of what?) that translucency 
affects?
The explanation wording seemed fairly clear, but you seem to indicate 
something else (I'm unclear from your reply "only useful & visible if 
you set background color."
Could someone give an example of which colors would appear translucent, 
given what settings for the 2 listed styles & default colors?

Thanks.

On 11/4/18 7:30 PM, Lex Trotman wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 at 10:42, <bendov at gmx.com> wrote:
>> Thanks, Lex.  Couple more questions / comments.
>>
>> Don't settings specified in color schemes override the same values in
>> filetypes.common?
>> Or is that true only for certain items?
> I think anything in the named styles can be overridden by the colour
> scheme, but anything can be overridden by filetypes.common in the user
> config (Menu->Tools->Configuration Files->filetypes.common will edit
> the user one or create it if its does not exist).
>
>> The method mentioned of making
>> the background color of white_space any color that's very contrasting is
>> too distracting for me.  You can do this in a color scheme as well, if
>> you *don't* have a commented text error on a styling element line, like
>> I did. :(
>> That error appeared to break setting the "white_space" to a single color
>> in a scheme I was using.
>>
>> Using color schemes, you shouldn't have to edit filetypes.common for
>> things normally present (or can be added) in color schemes - correct?
>>
> Correct, I just point to filetypes.common since it has the comments
> describing the settings
>
>> ** The manual shows (possibility) of using bold, italic on certain
>> items.   In https://www.geany.org/manual/current/index.html#id195 , it
>> shows an example:
>>> key=foreground_color;background_color;bold_flag;italic_flag.
>>> Bold and italic are flags and should only be "true" or "false".
>> It gives an example that I don't fully understand: key=comment,italic.
>
>
>> Some scheme authors enter styling involving bold text, but I'm not sure
>> it works.
>> ** Then there's a comment in the Geany **filetypes.CONF**, "**# the
>> lexer doesn't support keywords**."
>> Does that scrap using any bold / italics styling, or just for *.conf files?
> Presume you mean share/geany/filedefs/filetypes.conf which applys only
> to the "conf" filetype.
>
>> Is it possible to use bold on entries from the "styling section," like
>> white_space?  Not sure if "boldness" of white space dots are controlled
>> by the font & if bold was selected in preferences?
> Boldness applys to a font, so its not applicable to the white space
> marks since they are not characters, and the comment in
> filetypes.common explains what the third and fourth arguments to that
> setting mean in that case.
>
>> Either way, I'm not sure what's required from the example,
>> "key=comment,italic" (w/o quotes).  I think I'm missing something.
>>
>> ** **Translucency** :
>> I use the explanations for styling from
>> https://www.geany.org/manual/current/index.html#settings-section.
>> I don't see any difference when using Translucency or
>> marker_translucency vs. not using them.  Maybe it's just my eyes?
>>
> Translucency is really only useful and visible if you set background colour.
>
>> Values of 1 or 256 seem no different.
>> Translucency values in other color schemes that used them didn't seem to
>> matter, that I can see.
>>
>> For others FYI - in Linux the filetypes.common file was in
>> /usr/share/geany/filetypes.common - if Geany was installed from the
>> disro's repo or possibly? from a .deb file.
>> If Geany was installed to your home directory from a tar file, look for
>> the file there.
> See comment above about using the menu.
>
> Cheers
> Lex
>
>>
>> On 11/3/18 12:46 AM, Lex Trotman wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 13:59,<bendov at gmx.com>  wrote:
>>>> I've tried a long time to find a way to make the tiny dots bigger or
>>>> change color, that show empty spaces between characters.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if the size of empty space dots are controlled by the font
>>>> selected.
>>>> If so, there's little difference in dozens of Linux fonts, for size of
>>>> spaces indicators - even if bold is selected.  Generally, I use some
>>>> mono bold font.
>>>>
>>>> No idea if "spaces dots" color can be specified in a Geany color scheme,
>>>> or if they're set to the same color as some other characters or...?
>>>> Often I can't see some empty space dots unless I move close to the
>>>> monitor.  Those with perfect vision probably don't notice this.
>>>>
>>>> Periods are often not big enough or enough contrast for scanning or
>>>> editing code.
>>>> Some fonts (e.g., mono on bold) may make periods or single quote /
>>>> apostrophe a little bigger, but not much.
>>> The whitespace "dots" are just that, not characters.
>>>
>>> See filetypes.common white_space setting, in particular setting the
>>> last value to true makes it use the background colour which you can
>>> then set to something garishly visible.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Lex
>>>
>>>> When I eliminate all fonts that don't put a slash or dot in zeroes,
>>>> there aren't many left to find one with larger empty spaces dots or
>>>> larger periods / commas, unless I choose a huge font size.
>>>>
>>>> What "symbols" in the symbol list font selection does Geany preferences
>>>> refer to?
>>>> Thanks.
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