[Geany] Ideas for reducing duplicate bug reports

Cássio Nandi Citadin cassionandi at xxxxx
Fri Feb 3 02:06:43 UTC 2012


Having used JIRA on my job, and it is a really complete e rebust software.
Its very flexible and tends to take form over the culture of the local
business where it is used. Dont know how geany is developed (sprints,
single features and different teams, anyone can contribute), but JIRA is
certainly recommended if you need some specificity on your track systems.
In other words, if you track system can do, JIRA can, but may need some
patience to put it to work.

Have some months of experience with Mantis. Its straight forward as a bug
track system, may need some tweaks to take the form expected for the dev
team.

Github has it simple track system, but shows powerful in teams and projects
with many issues and little/medium teams. But, i think the most appeal
point in GitHub is the "social coding". The way the communication flows in
to the network, with another developers and it seems more "open" them other
plataforms out there, maybe its only impression of a frustrated open source
developer, but since I started to use geany (two months) and saw that it is
worth, I prayed for it to be hosted on Github. I think it will facilite the
new users and developers to get this project to be the best lightweight
text editor in the universe (it is almost there)



2012/2/2 Russell Dickenson <russelldickenson at gmail.com>

> On 3 February 2012 11:12, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Brush <mbrush at codebrainz.ca>
> wrote:
> >> On 02/01/2012 04:32 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm a co-adniminstrator of a SourceForge host project and agree
> >>> completely about the bug system, or tracker as they call it.  We
> >>> encourage bug reports to be sent to our mailing list, however, that
> >>> requires the reporter join the list or one of us has to approve the
> >>> message upon moderation and then remember to CC the reporter unless we
> >>> get a mail that the reporter joined the list.
> >>>
> >>
> >> -1 to mailing list reporting for the reasons you mentioned, at least
> not for
> >> *all* bugs.
> >
> > Mailing list for all bugs just adds unnecessary clerical effort on the
> > Geany team.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> I don't have an answer but would steal any good ideas.  :-)  Is there a
> >>> BTS that is easy to use?  Debian's system is mostly done via email, at
> >>> least that has been the extent of my involvement with it as a reporter
> >>> and on followups.  Bugzilla is used by various projects and I find it
> to
> >>> be so-so.  Trac is another.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Having used Bugzilla only as a user, I can say it's easily as bad as
> Source
> >> Forge if not worse. I've seen Trac but never used it.
> >>
> >
> > Used  Trac a few times, it seems much the same. ie bad
> >
> >>
> >>> Perhaps the most difficult thing is using the search properly.  What I
> >>> had happen recently was to search the Debian BTS for some key words on
> >>> an issue I was having.  Almost immediately the maintainer merged my
> >>> report with an older one that described the same problem but used
> >>> different terminology.  Of course the maintainer recognized the
> >>> similarity and acted on it.  Does the SF.net tracker allow merging of
> >>> reports?  I've not checked as it's not something I've had to try and do
> >>> as we get so few reports in the SF.net tracker.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Agree about searching. Two users experiencing the same issue usually
> have a
> >> completely different description, and so searching is often quite hard.
> >>
> >> I don't think SF.net does allow merging dupes, and this partially the
> reason
> >> I started this thread, because duplicate tracking is stupid on Source
> Forge
> >> (unless I just don't know how to use it).
> >>
> >
> > On most of them AFAICT
> >
> >> In a perfect world, each report that was marked as a dupe would
> contribute
> >> to keywords for the whole bug
> >
> > Thats a good idea, now how do we get it implemented?
> >
> > and before the user submits a new report, it
> >> would search all the items and duplicates and suggest that the user
> checks a
> >> handful of similar reports before/during submitting to see if they are
> >> duplicates.
> >
> > Thats more likely to be annoying rather than useful
> >
> > The issue with a bug tracker is only what software to run, but who to
> > host it.  Nobody I know of allows you to run your own tracker
> > software, each free host has its own.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lex
> >
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Matthew Brush
>
> You might consider JIRA, a commercial product of Atlassian. Of course
> Geany is an open source project and may prefer not to be tied in any
> way to a company. Atlassian provide hosted instances of JIRA for open
> source projects, including JBoss. I use it almost daily in my work and
> find it's a very capable product.
>
> The Frugalware Linux distribution recently changed from using Flyspray
> to Trac because Flyspray was no longer maintained. Trac seems OK to me
> as an end user of the product.
>
> Mantis - http://www.mantisbt.org/ - looks good and is seemingly
> actively developed. According to the blog, it has a phone-optimized
> interface available which could be a big advantage. The development
> team could keep their phones by their beds and track bugs as they are
> reported and respond instantly and easily. :P
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Russell Dickenson
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