[Geany-Devel] Helping Geany move forward: testing

[Vasiliy Faronov]

Hi all,

Two points were raised in this thread that I feel might not have
received enough attention. I'm going to try and float them once more.
Please do tell me if I'm being too persistent.

1. Thomas has offered [1] his help in merging PRs if he is given more
GitHub access.

2. Lex has agreed with me [2] that it might be a good idea to try and
engage the users more in testing Geany, so as to reduce the risks in
merging PRs. To that end, I have drafted up a tutorial [3] which may
or may not help.

Any further thoughts/actions on this?

[1] http://lists.geany.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/010237.html
[2] http://lists.geany.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/010248.html
[3] https://wiki.geany.org/howtos/testing_git


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Vasiliy

On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 29 April 2017 at 23:15, Vasiliy Faronov <vfaronov at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The vast majority are therefore not testing anything in master prior
>>> to release, so they are not helping stabilise the release.  Thats no
>>> help. (Of course users are not expected to help stabilise the
>>> release).
>>
>> By the way, I think it might be a good idea to call on users for more testing.
>
> Well, it can't hurt :)
>
>>
>> Many of them must be technical people who wouldn't be scared by Git
>> and may be interested in improvements. At least on Linux, it's
>> (relatively) easy to build Geany from Git and run it with a copy of
>> one's normal config. So it's easy and safe to try PRs out at least
>> briefly.
>
> Yes, its only a "one-liner" (well it would be one line if the mailer
> didn't wrap it :) after you have installed the prerequisites using
> your package manager:
>
> mkdir /some/where/geany; cd /some/where/geany;
> git clone https://github.com/geany/geany.git; cd geany;
> ./autogen.sh --prefix=/some/where/geany; make install;
> cd ../bin; ./geany -c ../config
>
> This keeps everything inside /some/where/geany, so you can delete it
> all, and it doesn't affect any geany release you have installed in the
> system location, doesn't need system privileges, doesn't overwrite
> your home directory config, so you can mess with things to your hearts
> content.  It is preferred that you use a clean config for testing if
> your normal Geany is an earlier version, but it then won't hurt to
> copy your normal one to /some/where/geany/config afterwards.  Remember
> config is a directory.
>
> To avoid gitting it (waa waa) you can also use the nightly tarball
> http::/download.geany.org/geany_git.tar.gz and you don't need the
> Autotools stuff either.
>
> mkdir /some/where/geany;
>
> Then just use your browser to download and the GUI extractor that your
> distro has to get the tarball and extract it into git_geany in
> /some/where/geany.  Or your favourite command line tools, but every
> distro has a browser and an extractor.
>
> cd /some/where/geany/git_geany;
> ./configure --prefix=/some/where/geany;
> make install; cd ../bin; ./geany -c ../config
>
> We really should publish it as the basic process for building from git
> and nightly, and a definitive list of dependencies and tools, the
> README waffles on about all the GTK deps etc. makes it sound complex
> but they should all be provided from your package manager, and it
> doesn't mention libvte or that most tools will be provided by the
> dev_basics packages, in fact actually doesn't ever cleanly list whats
> needed.
>
> There is a nightly Deb package built which you could use, but it will
> overwrite your system version of Geany (IIUC).
>
>>
>> I mean, at the moment geany.org doesn't even mention testing in its
>> "Contribute" sections.
>
> Well, a "Call for testers" on the front page would be better still,
> (in flashing orange and purple striped text -- ok maybe not).
>
> Enrico, any comment?
>
> Cheers
> Lex
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vasiliy
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Vasiliy