[Geany-Devel] Switched to Win~1

Tim Tassonis stuff at xxxxx
Mon Sep 22 10:19:01 UTC 2014

A bit surprised as well, but just goes to show how divisive the systemd 
people and their successful attempts to pull all major distros on their 
side are for the whole Linux community. The critics are left with a feeling 
of total helplessness, as even Debian bent over willingly and swept aside 
things like portability with their own non-Linux variants, effectively 
abandoning them, just repeating the well layed-out systemd propaganda with 
nearly robotic obeyance. Lennart and co really demonstrate an example 
masterpiece of how to destroy a community, by constantly breaking promises, 
creating unnecessary dependencies to force their stuff down people's 
throats, calling every critic a dinosaur of the nineties and an emotionally 
unstable "systemd hater", all for the sake of a few seconds bootup speed.

On September 22, 2014 7:47:25 AM Thomas Martitz <kugel at rockbox.org> wrote:

> Am 21.09.2014 um 15:48 schrieb Dimitar Zhekov:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Since Debian is leaning more and more towards systemd, especially with
> > gvfs installed, and since systemd-init breaks my system, I finally sat
> > on my back and migrated to Windows. It's not a good system either, but
> > gets the job done.
> >
> > Now, Geany under Win~1 has some deficiencies, due to gtk+, so I'll
> > probably use it as a debugger only, and limit myself to the official
> > releases. But if somebody decides to apply the spawning fix, or
> > parsing the columns in compiler messages, or the small patch that adds
> > virtual column to the status bar, I will be glad to help.
> >
> > Also, if Scope has any problems building with or running under gtk+3,
> > I'll fix them (some Linux programs are not replaceable, so I kept a
> > small Debian system in dual boot). But there will be no gtk+4 support,
> > at least not from me.
> This is a joke right?
> Seriously, I can understand that systemd is controversial, but not to
> the extend to abandon *Unix* altogether. There are many many ways to
> avoid systemd without going Windows, for example using a distro that
> doesn't use systemd (Gentoo, Slackware, etc) or one of the BSDs.
> Or, as you are on debian already, install the legacy sysvinit. It will
> be fully supported at least throughout Jessie (so 5+ years). Or use
> Ubuntu 14.04, which is still using upstart and will also be supported
> until 2019. I'm sure all controversial points are solved by 2019, either
> by systemd or a fork.
> I think it's just you leaning towards Windows. This is OK but don't
> blame systemd for it.
> Best regards
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