[Geany-Devel] Core Terminal Plugin (was Re: [Geany-Users] no Terminal tab in Geany preferences??)
mbrush at xxxxx
Sat Mar 2 05:43:13 UTC 2013
I wanted comment/respond to a message on user list that is completely
off-topic (development related). I don't know how to do it in
Thunderbird so hopefully I didn't mess up the threading too bad:
On 13-03-01 05:24 AM, Frank Lanitz wrote:> Am 01.03.2013 05:10, schrieb
>> FWIW I think Matthews suggestion of removing vte and using multiterm
>> is the "right" solution, then only multiterm depends on libvte and it
>> can be a hard depends.
> I like the normal terminal more than multiterm to be honest (sorry
> Matthew ;) ).
No worries, and to clarify what I probably didn't express clearly to Lex...
I like the multiple tabs in MultiTerm (obviously, that's why I made it),
but to even be close to a viable alternative to built-in VTE, it needs
to integrate better with Geany like running execute command in it,
receiving text from Scintilla buffer, other misc GUI integration, and to
be completely re-written in C instead of Vala.
I'd rather see a plugin _similar_ to MultiTerm providing a multi-tabbed
terminal (but in C) as a core Geany plugin if it could provide the old
features. The user experience would be the same or better and we
could get rid of all dependencies on VTE in core and generally clean
up all kinds of compile/run time checks and VTE-related code necessarily
mixed about Geany's code currently.
I think writing such a plugin would be relatively easy compared to
safely removing VTE from core code, which seems rather difficult and
error-prone. It would be interesting to start an experimental branch
that didn't touch core at all (yet) and made a core plugin equivalent to
the builtin VTE. If it could implement all of the existing functionality
as well as multi-tab support, IMO it would cross the threshold of being
worthwhile to replace the builtin VTE.
I imagine it would be easy enough to keep such a branch in sync with
master during development since there's very little overlap as a plugin.
Also, if it doesn't work out, it could be easily abandoned without
affecting main branch at all.
±1? Thoughts? comments? Anyone want to work on it?
If anyone shows enthusiasm I could start a wiki page giving a bit of a
"plan of attack" in case people want to help out and to collect ideas.
I'm moderately interested in working on this myself in the near
future, and also possibly extending it to include a Windows "Command
Prompt"-like alternative using Win32 console API.
P.S. Sorry for such a long email, it's difficult for me to express all
of this concisely in English.
 Especially if there is or could be a way to have core plugins loaded
by default, if supported/available.
 VTE doesn't seem worthy for Geany core to depend on since it doesn't
work on most operating systems (except UNIXey ones not including OSX in
 Especially if no one objects and I don't have to do it alone :)
 Yes, it's my native language, but it still sucks
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