[Geany-devel] Geany-devel Digest, Vol 34, Issue 19

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Print dialog and margins (??????? ???????)
   2. Re: Print dialog and margins (Lex Trotman)
   3. Re: debugger plugin (Thomas Martitz)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 12:12:29 +0300
From: ??????? ??????? 	<1a_antipov at mail.ru>
Subject: Re: [Geany-devel] Print dialog and margins
To: Geany-devel at uvena.de
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Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +1100 ?????? ?? Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com>:

> 2011/1/24 ??????? ??????? <1a_antipov at mail.ru>:
> > Hello,
> > I have recently faced a problem when printing with Geany. The problem is
> > that pages are printed with zero margin, which is obviously not good
> > (line-endings get cut off, as most printers have printing area less than A4
> > paper width).
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'd suggest that something is wrong in your printer setup, mine
> correctly avoids the non-printing margins for both the real printer
> and print to PDF option.  Perhaps the PPD file is wrong for your
> printer.

Probably, but can ALL PPD files provided by a well-known distro (Ubuntu 10.10) be wrong?
It seems that the problem is related either to CUPS or to PPD file providers. Maybe we should gather some statistics
(i.e. if someone else experiences such a problem), or should I file a bug?

> 
> > If I remember correctly, in some old versions of GNOME we could specify
> > printer margins via common GNOME printing dialog. However, now it seems
> > impossible
> 
> Because it is supposed to get the non-printing margins from the
> printer definition so the users can't fiddle with it and break it.
> 
> As for Geany using a bigger margin, that would be wasting paper and
> not environmentally friendly :-(
> (I'm still overcompensating for the miles of fanfold line printer
> paper I've used in the past :-)

Okay; anyway, if someone has that printer margins problem, please feel free to contact me and get a fresh version of the patch.

> 
> Cheers
> Lex
> 
> >
> (see http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkPageSetupUnixDialog.html as
> > an example)
> > I tried playing with CUPS settings, but it seems they are ignored. So I
> > decided to integrate the workaround into Geany.
> > I have modified printing preferences and "Document settings" tab in printing
> > dialog, so users are now able to specify custom printer margins for all 4
> > sides in all kinds of GtkUnit. The default behaviour was left unchanged -
> > the setting is simply ignored.
> > Please consider the patch attached and let me know if that was useful
> > _______________________________________________
> > Geany-devel mailing list
> > Geany-devel at uvena.de
> > http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
> >
> >

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:55:45 +1100
From: Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Geany-devel] Print dialog and margins
To: ??????? ??????? <1a_antipov at mail.ru>,	Geany development list
	<geany-devel at uvena.de>
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2011/1/24 ??????? ??????? <1a_antipov at mail.ru>:
>
>
>
> Mon, 24 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +1100 ?????? ?? Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com>:
>
>> 2011/1/24 ??????? ??????? <1a_antipov at mail.ru>:
>> > Hello,
>> > I have recently faced a problem when printing with Geany. The problem is
>> > that pages are printed with zero margin, which is obviously not good
>> > (line-endings get cut off, as most printers have printing area less than A4
>> > paper width).
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd suggest that something is wrong in your printer setup, mine
>> correctly avoids the non-printing margins for both the real printer
>> and print to PDF option. ?Perhaps the PPD file is wrong for your
>> printer.
>
> Probably, but can ALL PPD files provided by a well-known distro (Ubuntu 10.10) be wrong?
> It seems that the problem is related either to CUPS or to PPD file providers. Maybe we should gather some statistics
> (i.e. if someone else experiences such a problem), or should I file a bug?

All PPDs do it, wierd, I'm using Linux Mint 9 which is built on Ubuntu
10.04.  The printer PPD is from the manufacturer (Samsung) so I
suppose it should be right.
I'm using Geany 0.20 standard Debian package that came from the update
service, not SVN or anything special.

What do you get if you print to PDF, AFAICT it doesn't use a PPD?

>
>>
>> > If I remember correctly, in some old versions of GNOME we could specify
>> > printer margins via common GNOME printing dialog. However, now it seems
>> > impossible
>>
>> Because it is supposed to get the non-printing margins from the
>> printer definition so the users can't fiddle with it and break it.
>>
>> As for Geany using a bigger margin, that would be wasting paper and
>> not environmentally friendly :-(
>> (I'm still overcompensating for the miles of fanfold line printer
>> paper I've used in the past :-)
>
> Okay; anyway, if someone has that printer margins problem, please feel free to contact me and get a fresh version of the patch.

Lets see if we can find the cause rather than fix the symptoms, that
way we might be able to warn other users what to look out for (as well
as fixing your problem of course).

Cheers
Lex


>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lex
>>
>> >
>> (see http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkPageSetupUnixDialog.html as
>> > an example)
>> > I tried playing with CUPS settings, but it seems they are ignored. So I
>> > decided to integrate the workaround into Geany.
>> > I have modified printing preferences and "Document settings" tab in printing
>> > dialog, so users are now able to specify custom printer margins for all 4
>> > sides in all kinds of GtkUnit. The default behaviour was left unchanged -
>> > the setting is simply ignored.
>> > Please consider the patch attached and let me know if that was useful
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Geany-devel mailing list
>> > Geany-devel at uvena.de
>> > http://lists.uvena.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geany-devel
>> >
>> >
>
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> ????? ???????? ???????? ?? Hi-tech.Mail.Ru
> http://r.mail.ru/cln5823/hi-tech.mail.ru/
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 09:24:39 +0100
From: Thomas Martitz <thomas.martitz at student.htw-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [Geany-devel] debugger plugin
To: geany-devel at uvena.de
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On 07.01.2011 15:17, Alexander Petukhov wrote:
> Hello, everybody.
>
> My name is Alexander, i'm a software developer from St.Petersburg, Russia.
> I started to use Geany at my job, mostly for C++ development, and only feature I was not satisfied with
> was debuggers support.
> I looked at the existing GDB plugin but it's seemed a little bit unusual for me,
> and next I thought about multiple debuggers support  in one plugin.
> So I started to develop my own plugin with the foregoing in mind:
> - more VS, Netbeans,... likely GUI
> - multiple debuggers support
>
> Now i have GDB working more or less enough for using, and feel
> like I need some feedback.
> (I started to work on bashbd backend, but faced some problems and decided to postpone it,
> until GDB and general features will work well).
>
> So, project adress at SF is https://sourceforge.net/projects/geanydbg/
> Also I've prepared a little page  with a description - http://geanydbg.sourceforge.net/walkthrough.htm
>
> Waiting four your opinions and feedbacks.
>

Just tried your plugin, it seems very awesome so far! I seem to like it 
better than the existing debugger plugin.

I think it would work great with: 
http://lists.uvena.de/geany-devel/2011-January/003777.html

Best regards.

PS: It crashes if the program to be debugged has no debug symbols.


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