[Geany-Users] proper upgrade technique

Mon Nov 9 04:54:32 UTC 2020

Thanks for the clarification Lex.  Actually this ends up being my bad - I
recalled there was a .deb file on the Geany site, but checking now I see it
is source for Linux and installers for MacOS and Windows.  There was a PPA
somewhere that had .deb versions of the latest releases, I'll have to check
my notes and recall where that was.

So let me ask you a hypothetical question - assuming a .deb distribution
comes to light, what do you expect would happen if I sudo dpkg -i
geany-something.deb with 1.36 already installed?  Do I need to delete 1.36
first?  Same goes with building from source - delete the old version first?

Thanks again for all your help, and thanks very much to all those
contributors that made Geany happen.

- Woody

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 8:47 PM Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 14:09, Woodrow Stool <woodrow.stool at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think what the OP was asking was something like this:
> >
> > - Ubuntu 20.04
> >
> > - Geany 1.36 from the Ubuntu distro, installed with apt install geany
> >
> > - Now 1.37.1 is available.  It will be a long time before this hits the
> Ubuntu repo.  What is the best way to install it now, keeping my settings?
>
> >> An upgrade won't touch any customising you did in your local configure
> >> directories, but if you are one of those people who customised the
> >> system files then yes it will overwrite them.  In that case you need
> >> to copy the changes to a non-system configuration first and don't
> >> touch system files again.
>
> Ok, maybe saying "upgrade" might be confusing after having said there
> is no such thing, read that as "install".  But otherwise its as
> stated, installing won't touch your local config, just go ahead and
> install it.
>
> If you want a version newer than the distro has, you need to build it
> yourself, see the HACKING file, and also since the processes and tools
> are standard for open source C software, there should be help on the
> web for details.  Since distros vary slightly you may need to find
> where your distro put the old Geany to set the prefix.  Or you may
> decide to put it somewhere totally different, just don't forget to set
> your PATH.
>
> Installing _will_ overwrite the system config files which are the
> defaults.  As I said, if you have modified system files then you have
> done a "bad thing" (TM) because they will get overwritten by the next
> install, so I hope nobody has done that.  Just in case somebody has,
> you need to copy the changed settings into a local config first or
> they will be overwritten, how and what files depends on what you
> changed.
>
> >
> > I'd be interested in the answer to this question myself.  The reply from
> Lex didn't really answer that question, IMHO.
>
> As I said, its standard processes and tools for building open source
> software and the HACKING file provides more information.
>
> Cheers
> Lex
>
> >
> > - Woody
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 7:21 PM Lex Trotman <elextr at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Mike,
> >>
> >> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 10:45, Mike McCauley <mlmccauley50 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Under Ubuntu Linux, what is the recommended technique to upgrade Geany
> >> > as newer versions are released?
> >> >
> >> > All I've been able to find online is info on how to do an initial
> >> > install, and some upgrade suggestions that didn't work.
> >>
> >> Thats because there is no such thing as an "upgrade" of Geany, a new
> >> install replaces the old install (unless specially built to not do
> >> that, which (AFAIK) no distros do).
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I've put a ton of time into customizing my install, and I for sure
> don't
> >> > want to screw up and have an "upgrade trick" wipe all that out.
> >>
> >> An upgrade won't touch any customising you did in your local configure
> >> directories, but if you are one of those people who customised the
> >> system files then yes it will overwrite them.  In that case you need
> >> to copy the changes to a non-system configuration first and don't
> >> touch system files again.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I am only in interested in installing stable code, not bleeding edge
> >> > development versions.
> >>
> >> Distro versions are usually releases so thats as stable as it gets.
> >> That doesn't mean that there are no issues with a release, but by the
> >> time it has percolated through most distro systems it should be fairly
> >> stable so long as its the latest micro point release for the platform
> >> (1.37.0 for Linux, 1.37.1 for Windows as this is written).
> >>
> >> If you want to upgrade bypassing the distro system, you can build
> >> yourself with a different prefix so it doesn't overwrite an existing
> >> version, thats how developers maintain multiple versions.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Lex
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > REF: Ubuntu 20.04, Geany 1.36
> >> >
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